#381
Try the GEM SS PTFE blade with the aluminum spine removed. This will change a lot of your negatives to positives. Much cheaper, no glue, better blade providing a better shave and simply outstanding longevity.

Rinsing it sounds like the simple problem of getting used to only have a single cutting surface rather than two. Simply rinse twice as often. However, today I completed each of my passes without rinsing the razor off at all during the pass.

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#382
(This post was last modified: 07-18-2016, 02:54 PM by grim.)
(07-18-2016, 03:17 AM)Pete123 Wrote: It was designed for older guys that make good money, that are moving from cartridge shaving.  

While I believe they did say it was designed to migrate cartridge shavers to a single edge, no where did I read anything age related or money related.

1. Young people can make more money than old people

2. If anything, the "old guys" already traditionally wet shave. Its the young people who know no better.

(07-18-2016, 03:17 AM)Pete123 Wrote: it is a mild blade

Is it? Are you confusing how sharp the blade is with razor design? Don't you mean the razor design seems mild? The reason the blade dulls so quickly is because its is extremely sharp. The human eye cannot see the edge.


(07-18-2016, 03:17 AM)Pete123 Wrote: .remember the demographic it was designed for.

Old rich folks and not young rich folks?  

(07-18-2016, 03:17 AM)Pete123 Wrote:   It is harder to clean

Its trivial to clean. Rinse and put it in a cup of Simple Green. Done.  

(07-18-2016, 03:17 AM)Pete123 Wrote: I'm not a fan of the blades due to their cost.  Remember who they designed it for - older guys with plenty of money.

You seem hung up on money. In that case, don't buy it. Its not for you. In a hobby where people own thousands of dollars worth of brushes, spend their lives scouring eBay and flea sales to collect old razors, and own >200 soaps and are eager for the next "Seasonal" soap release, your worried about the price of blades?  Then the razor is not for you. Thats cool. But for those who have 200 soaps they will never use or $2,000 tied up in brushes, thats kind of funny.



(07-18-2016, 03:17 AM)Pete123 Wrote:   The blades are $1 per blade from Oneblade, shipping included.  I've started seeing them a few places in the US at $.70 per blade, shipping not included.  I suspect, though am only guessing, that Oneblade had exclusive distribution in the US and was not able to buy enough to keep exclusive distribution.  

Still, I can get Feather double edged for $23.50 for 100 blades from Amazon.  As a Prime member, there is no additional cost.  

Do some Due Diligence

Bullgoose. Buy in bulk when they go on sale at 15% off (happens throughout the year) = cost $0.455/blade

Caunnaught. BREXIT IS YOUR FRIEND. $0.39/blade. Many people believe the pound will drop to parity to the dollar by the end of the year. If that happens ... $0.30/blade

Gifts & Care. With DFS discount - $0.39/blade

Or your 70 cents? That's Maggards, way out of line with BREXIT prices

Or buy the Gems.

In the end, we all like what we like. YMMV and all that. I think your hung up on cost. In that case, its not for you. Thats fine ... But a little due diligence and the cost of the consumables comes way down.  Just saying ... And as a tool, a sunk cost ... I'll say it again ...

First, nobody pays $300. The tool is always on sale one way or the other. I'm sure somebody paid full price but they constantly bundle stuff  making the net cost around $250 or so. But lets say $300.  Who hasn't thrown $300 away on ... nothing. They can't even remember when they spent it. Maybe on an fancy dinner for the family for an occasion? And now you don't even remember what you ate. But a fine tool is forever ....

Just saying ... but as usual YMMV and if its not for you, then thats OK.

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Nashville, TN
(This post was last modified: 07-19-2016, 02:49 PM by Pete123. Edit Reason: Clarity )
(07-18-2016, 02:50 PM)grim Wrote:
(07-18-2016, 03:17 AM)Pete123 Wrote: It was designed for older guys that make good money, that are moving from cartridge shaving.  

While I believe they did say it was designed to migrate cartridge shavers to a single edge, no where did I read anything age related or money related.

Here is a quote and link to an article that you may not have come across. 

But Tod is very up-front and specific about OneBlade’s targeted market.  “Our goal is to go to that guy that uses a cartridge right now and getting poor results,” he says.  And to narrow their perfect customer down even more, that guy is an older (though the “Millennial” demographic is something they consider important too
, executive type who doesn’t have an issue with price but is rather looking for a luxury “shaving experience.”


Here's a link to the whole article:  http://sharpologist.com/2015/11/oneblade...razor.html


1. Young people can make more money than old people

I'm 52 and am a big fan of those younger than me. I have quite a few millennial friends and learn from them just as they learn from me.

2. If anything, the "old guys" already traditionally wet shave. Its the young people who know no better.

(07-18-2016, 03:17 AM)Pete123 Wrote: it is a mild blade

Is it? Are you confusing how sharp the blade is with razor design? Don't you mean the razor design seems mild? The reason the blade dulls so quickly is because its is extremely sharp. The human eye cannot see the edge.

You are correct, I meant to say that the design of the razor is mild.  As far as I know the Feather blades are the sharpest on the market.


(07-18-2016, 03:17 AM)Pete123 Wrote: .remember the demographic it was designed for.

Old rich folks and not young rich folks?  

The article talks about this. They want everyone..

(07-18-2016, 03:17 AM)Pete123 Wrote:   It is harder to clean

Its trivial to clean. Rinse and put it in a cup of Simple Green. Done.  

I'll have to get some Simple Green. I've been using an old tooth brush and soap. Sounds like there is an easier way.

(07-18-2016, 03:17 AM)Pete123 Wrote: I'm not a fan of the blades due to their cost.  Remember who they designed it for - older guys with plenty of money.

You seem hung up on money. In that case, don't buy it. Its not for you. In a hobby where people own thousands of dollars worth of brushes, spend their lives scouring eBay and flea sales to collect old razors, and own >200 soaps and are eager for the next "Seasonal" soap release, your worried about the price of blades?  Then the razor is not for you. Thats cool. But for those who have 200 soaps they will never use or $2,000 tied up in brushes, thats kind of funny.

I have a OneBlade which I received as a gift.  I am sensitive about about money. I'm starting my third business and am at the pre-profit stage. I'm really focused on preparing for retirements.



(07-18-2016, 03:17 AM)Pete123 Wrote:   The blades are $1 per blade from Oneblade, shipping included.  I've started seeing them a few places in the US at $.70 per blade, shipping not included.  I suspect, though am only guessing, that Oneblade had exclusive distribution in the US and was not able to buy enough to keep exclusive distribution.  

Still, I can get Feather double edged for $23.50 for 100 blades from Amazon.  As a Prime member, there is no additional cost.  

Do some Due Diligence

Bullgoose. Buy in bulk when they go on sale at 15% off (happens throughout the year) = cost $0.455/blade

Caunnaught. BREXIT IS YOUR FRIEND. $0.39/blade. Many people believe the pound will drop to parity to the dollar by the end of the year. If that happens ... $0.30/blade

Gifts & Care. With DFS discount - $0.39/blade

Or your 70 cents? That's Maggards, way out of line with BREXIT prices

Or buy the Gems.

This is good info.


In the end, we all like what we like. YMMV and all that. I think your hung up on cost. In that case, its not for you. Thats fine ... But a little due diligence and the cost of the consumables comes way down.  Just saying ... And as a tool, a sunk cost ... I'll say it again ...

First, nobody pays $300. The tool is always on sale one way or the other. I'm sure somebody paid full price but they constantly bundle stuff  making the net cost around $250 or so. But lets say $300.  Who hasn't thrown $300 away on ... nothing. They can't even remember when they spent it. Maybe on an fancy dinner for the family for an occasion? And now you don't even remember what you ate. But a fine tool is forever ....

Just saying ... but as usual YMMV and if its not for you, then thats OK.

My stage of life is more pork and beans and Beanie Weenies and less wine and roses right now./color]

Also, I want to be very clear on one point.  I'm not saying that the OneBlade is not a good razor.  Many people have them and feel like it's the best thing  they have ever had.  The last thing I want to do is rain on someone's parade.  One thing I have learned in the short time I've been wet shaving is that there is no 'best' anything.  We all have different kinds of whiskers and we all have different shapes of facial structures.  We'll all have different things that we like.

I would like to apologize to anyone who felt like I was putting their favorite razor down.  It is a very nice razor and can be passed down through the generations.
#384

Member
Nashville, TN
Gentlemen,

I'm brand new on this board and don't want to come out of the gates irritating others. I meant for my comments to be a balanced review of the OneBlade for those thinking about getting one.

Based on comments and an email, I think it came across that I was bashing the OneBlade. That wasn't my intention.

I look forward to getting to know you all and am grateful to have discovered wet shaving.

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#385
You didn't come across as bashing it to me, but I did want to counter some of your points with my personal experience. The great YMMV will divide us all. Wink

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#386
(07-19-2016, 02:28 AM)Pete123 Wrote: Gentlemen,

I'm brand new on this board and don't want to come out of the gates irritating others.  I meant for my comments to be a balanced review of the OneBlade for those thinking about getting one.

It wasn't irritating. Rather, it was a rehash of old news. If you had put in the quote up front, I would have remembered what I read a long time ago.  So I will try to explain, which I believe I did months ago in this very thread.

Since the release of the OneBlade, there have been three repeating complaints about it.

First, its too simple to use. There is no skill. Well duh. Modern technology is a wonderful thing. Otherwise we would be shaving with clams like the Romans so I find this argument ridiculous. Luddites of the world unite. Lets go back and ride horses too.

Second, some people don't like the history of the owner. Again. Duh. Find a single major company that has not paid a civil fine to some government. Even the very computer chips (if you are using intel chips) the company has paid civil fines. This is another ridiculous argument. This is how business operates (Not necessarily always altruistic).

Last, is your argument its too expensive.

I guess for 99% of people on forums, its a hobby. They dump disposable income in the hobby. The people trying to save money read for awhile and leave. They go back to buying generic soaps at supermarkets, cartridges, disposables, and packs of 100 for $4.99 and are happy. That's great for them. But lets not kid each other. Many people here have large amounts of money sunk into this hobby whether it be 20 $200 brushes, some specializing in just one style or brand, or 30 antique razors or just 200 soaps they can never use in their lifetime. But that's OK. Its a hobby. By definition you dump money into hobbies.

So complaining about the cost - generally - for hobbyists can come across as hypocritical (Not saying that was you - just in general). There are a LOT of smart people here. The power of the internet is the crowd sourcing. Deals appear out of nowhere. The people here KNOW where to get the deals. Quoting OneBlade blade prices is a non-starter simply because other sources exist.

Further, very smart people have videos and pictures on despining gem blades. They gave back to the community with their time and effort to show others how to make the price of blades a non-issue.  Some research here would have not only shown  that feathers are much cheaper than $1/per blade but other options exist making the point about cost of blades moot.

Not every piece of equipment makes everyone happy. Not every price makes everyone happy. We are all different. And that's cool. Enjoy what you enjoy. Be happy. It's all cool. There are lots of things I don't like either. Peace.

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Member
Austin, TX
(This post was last modified: 07-19-2016, 03:13 PM by kwsher.)
(07-19-2016, 02:28 AM)Pete123 Wrote: Gentlemen,

I'm brand new on this board and don't want to come out of the gates irritating others.  I meant for my comments to be a balanced review of the OneBlade for those thinking about getting one.

Based on comments and an email, I think it came across that I was bashing the OneBlade.  That wasn't my intention.  

I look forward to getting to know you all and am grateful to have discovered wet shaving.
Hey Pete123 , welcome to the board and appreciate your participation! You're entitled to your opinion as much as anybody else and one of the great things about DFS is the ability to express the same, sharing ideas and thoughts in a civil dialogue. We don't always have to agree and in fact I prefer the healthy dialogue when we don't.

I myself have opinions and also reserve the right to get smarter as I gain more info from members such as yourself and others with varying optics.

Thanks for sharing!

PS I like the OneBlade Smile

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#388

Member
Nashville, TN
(07-18-2016, 03:29 AM)SharpSpine Wrote: Try the GEM SS PTFE blade with the aluminum spine removed. This will change a lot of your negatives to positives. Much cheaper, no glue, better blade providing a better shave and simply outstanding longevity.

Rinsing it sounds like the simple problem of getting used to only have a single cutting surface rather than two. Simply rinse twice as often. However, today I completed each of my passes without rinsing the razor off at all during the pass.

Brian,

Can you explain a little more about the Gem blade. I'm new to wet shaving and am learning. Feather blades have a great reputation for many. You mention the GEM being a better blade. What do you mean by that?

I'm with you on the glue. I don't understand why Feather thinks they need to put so much glue on those blades.
#389

Super Moderator
San Diego, Cal., USA
Pete, you said absolutely nothing wrong. Indeed, your perspective was both cordial and insightful and those are two things that never go out of style. Smile

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(This post was last modified: 07-24-2016, 02:31 AM by SharpSpine.)
(07-23-2016, 06:57 PM)Pete123 Wrote:
(07-18-2016, 03:29 AM)SharpSpine Wrote: Try the GEM SS PTFE blade with the aluminum spine removed. This will change a lot of your negatives to positives. Much cheaper, no glue, better blade providing a better shave and simply outstanding longevity.

Rinsing it sounds like the simple problem of getting used to only have a single cutting surface rather than two. Simply rinse twice as often. However, today I completed each of my passes without rinsing the razor off at all during the pass.

Brian,

Can you explain a little more about the Gem blade. I'm new to wet shaving and am learning. Feather blades have a great reputation for many. You mention the GEM being a better blade. What do you mean by that?

I'm with you on the glue. I don't understand why Feather thinks they need to put so much glue on those blades.

Hi Pete. I have an entire thread journaling my experiences and experiments with the OneBlade where I go into detail about the GEM blades. I'll link to it below. Bottom line is that the GEM SS PTFE blades have been the preferred blade for vintage SE users while a few preferred the Feather spineless SEs. I did try some feathers in my Valet razors but even back then I preferred to trim a GEM blade to fit. The feather SE blade is more like a DE blade for me in that it more easily gives me irritation and weepers. The 3 facet edge on the GEM blades just seems to work better for me and the blade is much more robust allowing it to give me a month of shaves compared to only a few from the Feather.

http://damnfineshave.com/thread-sharpspi...de-journal

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