#61

Member
AZ, USA
(05-10-2019, 10:09 PM)andrewjs18 Wrote:
(05-10-2019, 03:47 PM)TheHunter Wrote: I like in the description where it states-

High Polish Finish - Some machine marks are visible. Some scratches also exist, especially when magnified. We call these marks "character", these marks are unique to each safety razor.

That was pretty funny to me when I read it. I don’t need any “character” in my High Polished Finishes, definitely not at that price point.

what's the point in a high polish finish if there's machine marks and scratches that are visible?!?!?!

me, personally, I like the machined look in razors (love it on my blackbird), but if I was buying something that was labeled as 'high polish finish', I'd expect as much.....especially for $300.

But it shows the Razors ‘character’ and is what makes each safety razor ‘unique’! Hahahahaha!

I also enjoy the Machined look on some of my Razors. I’ve got a Blackbird and a few Wolfman Razors in this finish that look very nice. I’ve also got a few Razors that I would definitely consider to have a ‘high polish finish’, and they look like mirrors. No ‘character’ at all in any of them.

That was definitely some interesting marketing on their part.

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#62

Administrator
Philadelphia, PA
(This post was last modified: 05-10-2019, 10:43 PM by andrewjs18.)
(05-10-2019, 10:36 PM)TheHunter Wrote:
(05-10-2019, 10:09 PM)andrewjs18 Wrote:
(05-10-2019, 03:47 PM)TheHunter Wrote: I like in the description where it states-

High Polish Finish - Some machine marks are visible. Some scratches also exist, especially when magnified. We call these marks "character", these marks are unique to each safety razor.

That was pretty funny to me when I read it. I don’t need any “character” in my High Polished Finishes, definitely not at that price point.

what's the point in a high polish finish if there's machine marks and scratches that are visible?!?!?!

me, personally, I like the machined look in razors (love it on my blackbird), but if I was buying something that was labeled as 'high polish finish', I'd expect as much.....especially for $300.

But it shows the Razors ‘character’ and is what makes each safety razor ‘unique’! Hahahahaha!

I also enjoy the Machined look on some of my Razors. I’ve got a Blackbird and a few Wolfman Razors in this finish that look very nice. I’ve also got a few Razors that I would definitely consider to have a ‘high polish finish’, and they look like mirrors. No ‘character’ at all in any of them.

That was definitely some interesting marketing on their part.

the way I see it, especially at $300, it's either a high polish finish or it's not...and if it's got visible machine marks and scratches, then it's not a high polish finish.

I'd expect a mirror finish, like you said.

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#63
(This post was last modified: 05-10-2019, 10:44 PM by User 399.)
Here's a Reddit comment where the company replies to feedback about their finish:

https://www.reddit.com/r/wicked_edge/com...gn/en14qz8

Kind of interesting that their high-polish finish isn't intended to be mirror.

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#64

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Philadelphia, PA
(05-10-2019, 10:44 PM)RuggerRigger Wrote: Here's a Reddit comment where the company replies to feedback about their finish:

https://www.reddit.com/r/wicked_edge/com...gn/en14qz8

Kind of interesting that their high-polish finish isn't intended to be mirror.

what the hell is a high polish finish then?!!?!?!?

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#65

Merchant
San Diego CA
(This post was last modified: 05-10-2019, 11:26 PM by Blackland Razors.)
As a rule, I don’t comment on other companies because I believe they should run their business as they see fit and the market will sort it out. I still believe that’s true, but I’m breaking my rule today because I hate greedy price gouging. I know EXACTLY what it costs to create a razor like this in 316L and this price point is ridiculous for a brand that hasn’t been established and with a design so simple. For reference, I can all but guarantee that the Blackbird is more expensive to machine judging from their design. Maybe they’re just smarter businesspeople than I am.

It could be the best shaver in the world, but the price is still gouging and I stand by that. What a shame. Go buy a Charcoal Goods or a Rex Ambassador instead.

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#66

Member
Seattle
(05-10-2019, 11:24 PM)Blackland Razors Wrote: As a rule, I don’t comment on other companies because I believe they should run their business as they see fit and the market will sort it out. I still believe that’s true, but I’m breaking my rule today because I hate greedy price gouging. I know EXACTLY what it costs to create a razor like this in 316L and this price point is ridiculous for a brand that hasn’t been established and with a design so simple. For reference, I can all but guarantee that the Blackbird is more expensive to machine judging from their design. Maybe they’re just smarter businesspeople than I am.

It could be the best shaver in the world, but the price is still gouging and I stand by that. What a shame. Go buy a Charcoal Goods or a Rex Ambassador instead.

Or a Blackbird or a Dart...

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#67

It's sharp and it cuts. I like it...
Northeast, USA
I wrote this earlier on another forum.........

To much of a jump from someone that has no history in the niche razor producing wet shaving market. Premium price for perhaps a not so premium looking finished product and say it has built in character is really stretching it.

I'm cool with anyone trying to make a buck, free enterprise, entrepreneurship, capitalism, it's what makes the world of commerce turn. I begrudge no one on working on an idea, marketing it and bringing it to fruition. Gung-Ho, all for it.

That being said and I vehemently state it's just my own thought and opinion, some of these vendors or producers are going after a fast dollar and are bypassing one of the most important building blocks in business entrepreneurship. Building brand awareness from the ground up. Starting low and working your way to the top. No one wants to grind it out anymore. It's either start at the top or nothing at all.

That's why I respect small shop manufacturers such as Charcoal Goods, CB Karve, Wolfman Razors, Blackland, Timeless and Razor Emporium. They put the time in, paid the price from the ground level and are reaping some benefits from their hard work and due diligence on producing exceptional product. Sales start slowly but, steadily climb. Some are a bit more expensive than others and we all know that the Creme De La Creme in artisan razor creation, Wolfman is arguably the pinnacle of razor craftsmanship and quality. But he earned it through painstaking production perfection. Most would agree that he's The Man. And rightfully so. And so have the rest of those that I mentioned above as they have put the time in to carve out a niche in a niche market.

I was looking forward to this company as I really would like to see any company in our wet shaving world succeed in their business. And I sincerely hope that they are successful in this endeavor but, I believe that cutting corners in business for fast cash and gouging consumers at the start is not a solid way of starting a new business and having staying power and more importantly maintaining it for the long haul....

The best to them.

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#68
(This post was last modified: 05-11-2019, 12:19 AM by LOOT.)
This one is a stinker. Terrible marketing. Terrible price point. I looked at the first photo and thought, "$80 razor right there". Calling a $300 price tag "gouging" is being too gracious.

I don't understand who these new companies are marketing to. Look at the Janus. I don't doubt the guy is smart, but bragging about taking the most complicated razor...and making it MORE complicated, with MORE parts doesn't seem wise to me. Solving the user serviceability issue with a lubrication port? Ferreals? OK...then release a video of you shaving with it and it doesn't even remove lather? It looks like it left you with braids in the lather. All of this for the low, low, introductory price of $500...hurry up before they are all gobbled up by the collectors.

No thanks and no thanks. It's baffling to me.

Thanks for the laugh guys. High polished "character"....

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#69

Member
gone to Carolina in my mind
(05-11-2019, 12:00 AM)GlazedBoker Wrote: I wrote this earlier on another forum.........

To much of a jump from someone that has no history in the niche razor producing wet shaving market. Premium price for perhaps a not so premium looking finished product and say it has built in character is really stretching it.

I'm cool with anyone trying to make a buck, free enterprise, entrepreneurship, capitalism, it's what makes the world of commerce turn. I begrudge no one on working on an idea, marketing it and bringing it to fruition. Gung-Ho, all for it.

That being said and I vehemently state it's just my own thought and opinion, some of these vendors or producers are going after a fast dollar and are bypassing one of the most important building blocks in business entrepreneurship. Building brand awareness from the ground up. Starting low and working your way to the top. No one wants to grind it out anymore. It's either start at the top or nothing at all.

That's why I respect small shop manufacturers such as Charcoal Goods, CB Karve, Wolfman Razors, Blackland, Timeless and Razor Emporium. They put the time in, paid the price from the ground level and are reaping some benefits from their hard work and due diligence on producing exceptional product. Sales start slowly but, steadily climb. Some are a bit more expensive than others and we all know that the Creme De La Creme in artisan razor creation, Wolfman is arguably the pinnacle of razor craftsmanship and quality. But he earned it through painstaking production perfection. Most would agree that he's The Man. And rightfully so. And so have the rest of those that I mentioned above as they have put the time in to carve out a niche in a niche market.

I was looking forward to this company as I really would like to see any company in our wet shaving world succeed in their business. And I sincerely hope that they are successful in this endeavor but, I believe that cutting corners in business for fast cash and gouging consumers at the start is not a solid way of starting a new business and having staying power and more importantly maintaining it for the long haul....

The best to them.

Or maybe they'e just bypassing Ben Franklin's adage "Doing well by doing good."
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#70
given the materials and the pictures, I too cannot justify their price.

Ive now got a couple of 300+ dollar razors and I'm honestly probably the target market at this price point (afterall, everything shaving is cheap compared to some of my old hobbies), but this one does nothing for me.

TBH unless I heard this thing was a top tier shaver I'd probably just not be interested based on pictures at any price.

also rent a decent camera lens, please.

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