WhollyKaw

I love seeing people's reactions to using a new soap like Wholly Kaw - your expectations have a lot to do with your experience. I've been using WK for a couple of years now starting with the regular formula Chypre Rose Concerto. I found it to be very good and the scent beautiful, however, I had virtually no expectation because at the time not many people were talking about it. There is no doubt that there has been a lot of over the top comments posted about the soap but its a free country and if you love something let it show right? I consider the WK to be probably in my top 5 soaps both on scent and performance but at the end of the day its still soap so I recommend that you put it in your rotation and after a few weeks you'll be better positioned to determine how it compares to your other favourite soaps.

I love seeing people's reactions to using a new soap like Wholly Kaw - your expectations have a lot to do with your experience.  I've been using WK for a couple of years now starting with the regular formula Chypre Rose Concerto.  I found it to be very good and the scent beautiful, however, I had virtually no expectation because at the time not many people were talking about it.  There is no doubt that there has been a lot of over the top comments posted about the soap but its a free country and if you love something let it show right?  I consider the WK to be probably in my top 5 soaps both on scent and performance but at the end of the day its still soap so I recommend that you put it in your rotation and after a few weeks you'll be better positioned to determine how it compares to your other favourite soaps.

100% right and I totally knew it too. That said, my love for HASLINGER was instant.

Anyway, as you said, it'll be in my rotation for at min for the next 18 shaves. I figure I'll only be able to give an honest assessment 6 shaves in. If I don't like it after 18 shaves, who cares!? With so much awesome on the market, there is no reason to have to fight to like something.

I love seeing people's reactions to using a new soap like Wholly Kaw - your expectations have a lot to do with your experience.  I've been using WK for a couple of years now starting with the regular formula Chypre Rose Concerto.  I found it to be very good and the scent beautiful, however, I had virtually no expectation because at the time not many people were talking about it.  There is no doubt that there has been a lot of over the top comments posted about the soap but its a free country and if you love something let it show right?  I consider the WK to be probably in my top 5 soaps both on scent and performance but at the end of the day its still soap so I recommend that you put it in your rotation and after a few weeks you'll be better positioned to determine how it compares to your other favourite soaps.

100% right and I totally knew it too.  That said, my love for HASLINGER was instant.  

Anyway, as you said, it'll be in my rotation for at min for the next 18 shaves.  I figure I'll only be able to give an honest assessment 6 shaves in.  If I don't like it after 18 shaves, who cares!?  With so much awesome on the market, there is no reason to have to fight to like something.

I couldn't agree with you more - life is too short not to be using the stuff you love and loving the stuff you're using. Other people's shaves are just not relevant. So tell me this, when we find a product we love, why do we still keep looking for other product?

Marko - I couldn't agree with you more - life is too short not to be using the stuff you love and loving the stuff you're using. Other people's shaves are just not relevant. So tell me this, when we find a product we love, why do we still keep looking for other product?

What is "Not being satisfied has gotten us to the moon?"

What is "Marketers have conditioned us to never be satisfied?"

What is "Variety is the spice of life?"


I honestly can't even pretend to possibly answer such a profound question. But the question begs even more questions. Is monogamy really a worthy social construct? Can dual citizens really be loyal to two warring nations?

Gaslight me my friend ... GAS LIGHT ME~!

Marko - I couldn't agree with you more - life is too short not to be using the stuff you love and loving the stuff you're using. Other people's shaves are just not relevant. So tell me this, when we find a product we love, why do we still keep looking for other product?

What is "Not being satisfied has gotten us to the moon?"

What is "Marketers have conditioned us to never be satisfied?"

What is "Variety is the spice of life?"


I honestly can't even pretend to possibly answer such a profound question.  But the question begs even more questions.  Is monogamy really a worthy social construct?  Can dual citizens really be loyal to two warring nations?  

Gaslight me my friend ... GAS LIGHT ME~!

I find dual citizenship to be problematic - how can you be loyal to more than one sovereign state whether they're at war or not? I think the absence of tax treaties providing that dual citizens don't have to pay income tax in both jurisdictions would put an end to the practice pretty quick.

I listened to a podcast recently that discussed, among other things, the practice of switching from one thing to another even when you're satisfied with the first - the topic was on distractibility. Apparently its a survival strategy - say you're eating the fruit from a fruit laden tree that happens to be next to another fruit laden tree. You will happily consume the fruit from the first tree until its depleted to the point where the other tree starts to look attractive. How close/far the other tree is influences if and when you make the jump to that tree. It comes down to cost - benefit. So with shaving soap, you're happily using a product but then you see other people using, and apparently enjoying a different product. You think, hmm, I might like that one more than this one and then that works on your brain until you get the other product and try it. The price of the soap influences whether and how often you switch. Most shaving soaps aren't that expensive in the whole scheme of things which is why many of us have way more soap than we need, including many we don't even really like. I have relatively few expensive soaps - it took me several years to finally try Nuavia and then only when one of the vendors (Top of the Chain) discounted it by $20. So the more costly, either in money or for our evolutionary ancestors, the cost of moving to different hunting territory, the less likely or less often we'll make a change, the cheaper the cost the more often/likely we will. Thats why most of us (not all of us) generally will only have one spouse, either at one time or ever, its just too costly to make a switch. At the end of the day we're hard wired by our evolution. We think we have free will but we really don't, we're slaves to our genetic coding and marketers know that. We are essentially putty in their hands. Sad isn't it?

You know, you could make a damn fine argument that by looking to the other tree, we ensure a varied diet. This would help in ensuring survival - in that we wouldn't deplete scarce resources as quickly if we didn't peruse variety. I can honestly see why we would have that programmed into our DNA. And any doctor will tell you that variety in diet is a good thing. BUT...

That kind of means God has a really bad sense of humor - what with putting the forbidden fruit in Eden LOL!

As for dual citizenship - I'm ok with it. It's like having two kids. I can love two things at the same time.

Good point on citizenship. As for Eden, its easy to be strong if you're never tempted. I've always said the best way to avoid temptation is to stay away from it. If you're trying to quit drinking don't go to the bar with your pals after work. Yeah right, you're just going to have a glass of water.

This is why online shopping and shaving supplies are a potentially dangerous combination for men - the perfect shopping (hunting - gathering) platform, a plethora (yes, plethora) of choices each more tempting than the next. The false promise of "saving money" when switching from expensive cartridges to cheap DE blades. Does anybody know a single person who has made the switch to wet shaving and actually saved money. Does this man even exist? Theoretically yes, do the math, its possible but theres all that great stuff in that tree right over there.....click.

I remember back a few years ago when AT&T introd packaging for telephone, cable & internet in one bundle. Everyone thought they would blow every competitor out of the market. They were wrong for one reason that was so simple it was overlooked: people like to shop. This forum's very existence is proof positive of that.

Good point on citizenship.  As for Eden, its easy to be strong if you're never tempted.  I've always said the best way to avoid temptation is to stay away from it.  If you're trying to quit drinking don't go to the bar with your pals after work.  Yeah right, you're just going to have a glass of water.

This is why online shopping and shaving supplies are a potentially dangerous combination for men - the perfect shopping (hunting - gathering) platform, a plethora (yes, plethora) of choices each more tempting than the next.  The false promise of "saving money" when switching from expensive cartridges to cheap DE blades.  Does anybody know a single person who has made the switch to wet shaving and actually saved money.  Does this man even exist?  Theoretically yes, do the math, its possible but theres all that great stuff in that tree right over there.....click.

I remember back a few years ago when AT&T introd packaging for telephone, cable & internet in one bundle. Everyone thought they would blow every competitor out of the market. They were wrong for one reason that was so simple it was overlooked:  people like to shop. This forum's very existence is proof positive of that.

I believe that "that man" does exist!! But you'll never, and I mean NEVER find him on a forum lol. Way too enabling! But I do have a buddy who buys only what he needs. Its remarkable.

UPDATE:

Ok so I've shaved with the "Fougere Bouquet" a couple times now. Initially I found the scent overpowering, but no longer. Quite pleasant really. But the shave... the lather was never as impressive as I expected it would be.

I always use aftershave so I'll never get a true understanding what the soap will do by itself, but compared to some soaps I use, it's not the most moistening. Moreover, it's not the slickest cream I've ever used either. Don't get me wrong, it's a nice cream, but I'm not convinced it's better than some of the creams/soaps I use now. I mean today I paired it with Gentleman's Refinery's aftershave, and my face feels awesome!!

I'm not sure. I'm going to try a different scent next shave and see. I like it - it's just not rocking my world the way I was hoping.