#61

Living on the edge
(05-25-2019, 02:44 AM)ohoho Wrote: John Ruskin 8. Februar 1819
ENGLISH WRITER AND ARTIST

"There is hardly anything in the
world that someone cannot make a
little worse and sell a little cheaper,
and the people who consider price
alone are that person's lawful prey.
It is unwise to pay too much, but it
is also unwise to pay too little. When
you pay too much, you lose a little
money, that is all. When you pay
too little, you sometimes lose
everything because the thing you
bought is incapable of doing the
thing you bought it to do.
The common law of business
balance prohibits paying a little and
getting a lot... It can't be done. If
you deal with the lowest bidder it is
well to add something for the risk
you run. And if you do that you will
have enough to pay for something
better."

A lovely sentiment...also summed up as "I am too poor to afford cheap stuff."

And nothing captures it as eloquently as this:

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#62

Member
Detroit
(05-27-2019, 03:38 AM)dmiller622 Wrote: Actually from what I understand from the individual's they used some technology to 3D imprint the razors head and bases to match exactly the current one so he said it is 1 for 1 match using some top CNC machining in China. When I receive the one I am going to test I will provide photos
and I do know the handles are a different design.


I requested the person to join this forum and provide the information so I am certain he will soon. DE razors have been around for years and every DE razor out there is cloned in some way or another.

To be honest the wolfman razors are not all that anyway so I have no idea why there is such an uproar on it. I mean it just a polished SS razor which he only makes a handful a month. I think the reason why everyone is pissed about the wolfman clones is they cannot resell them for $500 to $1000 now since the market will be flooded with clones.

Is it a copy of the WR1 or WR2?
- Jeff
#63
(This post was last modified: 05-27-2019, 07:04 PM by bkatbamna.)
Ironic how the diamond syndicate created an artificial demand for their product by associating their product with engagement and marriage. And now they post ads about eschewing unnecessary things.

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#64
(This post was last modified: 05-27-2019, 11:23 PM by Tbone.)
(05-27-2019, 03:38 AM)dmiller622 Wrote: To be honest the wolfman razors are not all that anyway so I have no idea why there is such an uproar on it. I mean it just a polished SS razor which he only makes a handful a month. I think the reason why everyone is pissed about the wolfman clones is they cannot resell them for $500 to $1000 now since the market will be flooded with clones.
That is likely part of it. It is just materialism run amok, and people becoming tools for that materialism. It's akin to sneakerheads having special edition sneakers that cost a fortune. They are little different than any other sneakers, yet people pay a lot just for exclusivity and bragging rights. If someone clones that item, especially for a lot less money, the special edition folks no longer have that "I have something you don't have" prestige. Even worse, it makes them look silly now that everyone else has the same thing, but for a lot less money. IMHO, I think it is all pretty pathetic, not to mention a little pretentious. The shave seems to have gotten lost in the gadgets. Those of us getting great shaves from a $15 razor are laughing all the way to the bank.

(05-27-2019, 07:03 PM)bkatbamna Wrote: Ironic how the diamond syndicate created an artificial demand for their product by associating their product with engagement and marriage. And now they post ads about eschewing unnecessary things.
The unnecessary things does not include diamonds, though. If people eschew other things, then they will have more money to spend on diamonds.
#65
historically, clones do not devalue the original.

some people think paintings are a waste of money too, but despite the fact that fine art is basically money laundering I would still happily part with my money to have something from the right painter, where the right painter is one who's work brings me what little joy a physical object can.

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#66
(05-27-2019, 11:17 PM)Tbone Wrote: Those of us getting great shaves from a $15 razor are laughing all the way to the bank.

this is a really tortured way to use this, and frankly I think more than a little bit misses the point of the phrase.

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#67
(This post was last modified: 05-28-2019, 08:21 PM by Tbone.)
(05-28-2019, 12:18 AM)trashcanmagic Wrote: historically, clones do not devalue the original.

some people think paintings are a waste of money too, but despite the fact that fine art is basically money laundering I would still happily part with my money to have something from the right painter, where the right painter is one who's work brings me what little joy a physical object can.
People who own the originals might not lower their asking price, but copies will reduce demand for the originals. These are razors, not the Mona Lisa. A better example would be the effect of Taiwanese clone PC computers on the IBM originals. The clones caused a significant price drop for the originals, both new and used.

A large part of a razor's value comes from the shave it provides. A fancy razor that sells for $50 or less and shaves great will tend to draw customers away from more expensive models. There are many great razors now available that sell for substantially less than $50. Does anybody really believe that the Ming Shi 2000s has not impacted Merkur Futur sales?

And fewer, better things? Fewer? That'll be the day. Not every wetshaver or aspiring wetshaver has a mountain of money, so price is important in mainstream wetshaving. The Wolfman clone is therefore very likely to meet with success. Hey, quality combined with affordability has always been a winning combination.

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#68

Member
Germany
(This post was last modified: 05-28-2019, 09:30 PM by ohoho.)
The only thing that will cause price collapse for Wolfman is if it is always available for purchase or if it is offered at 100 piece. China Clon will only increase sales from 2-3 min to 3-4 min.

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#69

Living on the edge
(05-28-2019, 09:26 PM)ohoho Wrote: China Clon will only increase sales from 2-3 min to 3-4 min.

which is not a bad thing for those hunting one!
#70

Living on the edge
(05-27-2019, 07:03 PM)bkatbamna Wrote: Ironic how the diamond syndicate created an artificial demand for their product by associating their product with engagement and marriage. And now they post ads about eschewing unnecessary things.

Nefarious as hell...but a brilliant strategy, nonetheless....and perfectly legal.
I blame it all on James Bond and Shirley Bassey.

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