Stirling Soap 316 Stainless Steel Razor

as long as it has less blade feel than an ikon tech i am happy!

From my prototype trial it was definitely smoother than the iTech which I find harsh and not usable unless I "ride the cap"

Wait did I just hear those words harsh coming from " The face of steel " tell me it isn't so! LOL

Any updates?

Any updates?

Yes, according to a Facebook post from Rod yesterday, a disaster has occurred. Apparently the machining company he used decided to take a shortcut on cost, violate their agreement, and have the razors engraved in China. Rod was very displeased about this since they are supposed to be entirely made in the USA. This will nullify that and also bring in some legal issues with them saying "Made the USA" on them. Long story short, he's not going to sell the razors as is and it's back to the starting line. I'm sure he's out a ton of money. It's such a shame because Rod is a great guy and is not deserving of this type of setback. I really hope there is some legal recourse to be done. I think the machine shop should have to redo all 300 of the razors and have them properly engraved here in the US like they should have been.

Damn, that really sucks!!


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From reading the post on Stirling’s FB page, it appears the machine shop outsourced the ENTIRE production of these razors to China but still had them engrave, “Made in the USA” on them. THAT is crazy!

I guess the machine shop wanted to make their profit too. The “Made in the USA” engraving was just part of Rod’s issue.

From reading the post on Stirling’s FB page, it appears the machine shop outsourced the ENTIRE  production of these razors to China but still had them engrave, “Made in the USA” on them. THAT is crazy!

I guess the machine shop wanted to make their profit too. The “Made in the USA” engraving was just part of Rod’s issue.

Wow, that sounds messed up.

Any updates?

Yes, according to a Facebook post from Rod yesterday, a disaster has occurred. Apparently the machining company he used decided to take a shortcut on cost, violate their agreement, and have the razors engraved in China. Rod was very displeased about this since they are supposed to be entirely made in the USA. This will nullify that and also bring in some legal issues with them saying "Made the USA" on them. Long story short, he's not going to sell the razors as is and it's back to the starting line. I'm sure he's out a ton of money. It's such a shame because Rod is a great guy and is not deserving of this type of setback. I really hope there is some legal recourse to be done. I think the machine shop should have to redo all 300 of the razors and have them properly engraved here in the US like they should have been.

From reading the post on Stirling’s FB page, it appears the machine shop outsourced the ENTIRE production of these razors to China but still had them engrave, “Made in the USA” on them. THAT is crazy!

I guess the machine shop wanted to make their profit too. The “Made in the USA” engraving was just part of Rod’s issue.

Yes, the entire job was outsourced to China without his knowledge...

Any updates?

Yes, according to a Facebook post from Rod yesterday, a disaster has occurred. Apparently the machining company he used decided to take a shortcut on cost, violate their agreement, and have the razors engraved in China. Rod was very displeased about this since they are supposed to be entirely made in the USA. This will nullify that and also bring in some legal issues with them saying "Made the USA" on them. Long story short, he's not going to sell the razors as is and it's back to the starting line. I'm sure he's out a ton of money. It's such a shame because Rod is a great guy and is not deserving of this type of setback. I really hope there is some legal recourse to be done. I think the machine shop should have to redo all 300 of the razors and have them properly engraved here in the US like they should have been.

Depending on what the contract says, there should be recourse but that always costs money.  There is also the question of how much of Stirling's money does the machine shop already have and are they going to just give it back if Rod chooses to go elsewhere.  The issue is obviously the integrity of the machine shop, ie, they have none.  Even if Rod goes somewhere else and gets the product he wants, there is still the issue of 300 Chinese made razors with Stirling Soap Co. Made in the USA etched on them floating around - what are the odds that a contractor with the scruples of the one he originally chose will just chuck those in the scrap metal bin? Rod will have to make an obvious design change to allow the real razors to be distinguished from the fakes.  What a mess.  I'm reminded of the Rockwell experience in their early days but I think this might be even messier.

I wonder how Rod found out. I can only think of the shop having told him cause if it doesn't say 'made in China' on the razor how would you really know.

Any updates?

Yes, according to a Facebook post from Rod yesterday, a disaster has occurred. Apparently the machining company he used decided to take a shortcut on cost, violate their agreement, and have the razors engraved in China. Rod was very displeased about this since they are supposed to be entirely made in the USA. This will nullify that and also bring in some legal issues with them saying "Made the USA" on them. Long story short, he's not going to sell the razors as is and it's back to the starting line. I'm sure he's out a ton of money. It's such a shame because Rod is a great guy and is not deserving of this type of setback. I really hope there is some legal recourse to be done. I think the machine shop should have to redo all 300 of the razors and have them properly engraved here in the US like they should have been.

Depending on what the contract says, there should be recourse but that always costs money.  There is also the question of how much of Stirling's money does the machine shop already have and are they going to just give it back if Rod chooses to go elsewhere.  The issue is obviously the integrity of the machine shop, ie, they have none.  Even if Rod goes somewhere else and gets the product he wants, there is still the issue of 300 Chinese made razors with Stirling Soap Co. Made in the USA etched on them floating around - what are the odds that a contractor with the scruples of the one he originally chose will just chuck those in the scrap metal bin? Rod will have to make an obvious design change to allow the real razors to be distinguished from the fakes.  What a mess.  I'm reminded of the Rockwell experience in their early days but I think this might be even messier.

That’s crazy. He’s trying to support a US company, then they outsource to China. That’s shocking. I wouldn’t have thought a company would do that. They must not have much pride, or morals.