sharing SOTD photos

This is my second try at posting here on this subject - I deleted the other one because I wanted to rethink my answer.

I am no fan of facebook and its owner and do not have an account. I am not on twitter, or any of the other logos listed at the bottom of the page.  So my initial response was to say that I did not want my photos out there on these sites especially facebook due to their polices.

I saw the following in a Time Magazine article (No, Facebook Is Not Planning to Sell Your Images, Olivier Laurent Dec. 2, 2014):  "By signing up to the social media site, users agree to grant Facebook “a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook.” This license, however, ends “when you delete your [Intellectual Property] content or your account unless your content has been shared with others, and they have not deleted it.”  Facebook does say that they cannot sell your property without your consent but you would have to spend all of your time self policing to see if they used it or someone else pulled it off the site.

On the other hand as someone that really enjoys photography and you always like the exposure (no pun intended) I would ask that you put a disclaimer about using the photos on the page and I will start tagging them with my info.

Lets be realistic, facebook doesnt have a stranglehold on anything. They provide a service. People choose to either use said service or not. Anyone is free to deactivate or delete their facebook profile at any time without repercussions, and once you do all of your information is deactivated or deleted with it. There is no force or threat of force or even an implication of repercussion.

They keep information because they are required to by law. As the operators of multiple servers globally, they have a responsibility to track all of the data that is processed through their servers in the event that a crime is committed. That data will be subpoena'ed and used as evidence.

Clearly they also track browsing and location history to target ads to us directly. This doesnt use personal information, it just tracks your public IP address and your public browsing habits. Anybody can access that information, as it is not private information.

You have options. Granted, those options may reduce the convenience of modern communications, but to say their is a stranglehold isnt really accurate. The USPS still delivers mail and all the major telecommunications networks still provide hardwired landlines for telephones. Nobody is being forced to participate to any degree.

It has simply become a way of life for us. There will come a time when we will walk into a store and the digital advertisements will address us by name, and show us exactly what we thought we needed. There is nothing illegal or unethical about it, because ultimately, we all choose to give these marketers our information everytime we turn on a device...

If you are participating in something requires a facebook login, than you are participating in something owned by facebook. I have fb, instagram, and google plus. They are independent of each other, and none requires the use of any other...

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Lets be realistic, facebook doesnt have a stranglehold on anything. They provide a service. People choose to either use said service or not. Anyone is free to deactivate or delete their facebook profile at any time without repercussions, and once you do all of your information is deactivated or deleted with it. There is no force or threat of force or even an implication of repercussion.

You don't know that for sure. Once it's out there, it's out there.

Lets be realistic, facebook doesnt have a stranglehold on anything. They provide a service. People choose to either use said service or not. Anyone is free to deactivate or delete their facebook profile at any time without repercussions, and once you do all of your information is deactivated or deleted with it. There is no force or threat of force or even an implication of repercussion.

You don't know that for sure. Once it's out there, it's out there.

Of course that is true. Once the information is stored on a server, ANY server, it will never truly be deleted. It will always and forever be available on an archive server somewhere. You are 100% correct.

However, once you delete or deactivate your facebook profile, your content is deactivated or deleted on their active servers, meaning your account is no longer mined for updated content on every tick cycle. Deactivating keeps all your content on the servers for you to access anytime you want to reactivate, but it throws a firewall up, blocking the aervers from retrieving the data. Deleting your profile does remove all of your information from the active servers and loads it to the archives which they are required to maintain.

But the truth is, once a piece of data is uploaded to a public domain server, it can never be completely removed from the internet...some server somewhere has an active copy of whatever it was that you uploaded...

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Gentlemen, this really has been a very interesting thread.  I am old enough to remember when a certain amount of privacy meant something so I very much take Mickey Oberman's point and agree with him on many of his concerns.  There is just something about losing control that is quite unsettling.  On the other hand, many of you (BadDad, andrewjs18 and others) have given logical explanations for the way things are and will probably continue to be for the foreseeable future.  This balance of discussion does help to put matters into perspective.  I still resent the utter lack of privacy but I have no choice if I want to chat about these matters with you, PIF with you (again, thanks for the moustache wax BadDad), or Buy/Sell/Trade with you (I'm really enjoying that Schick Adjustable Injector razor I purchased from you andrewjs18).  There is no denying that all of this would be very limited or not at all possible without the internet and social media.

I don't want to chime in too terribly much but I work in an environment that involves a ton of customer info, with literally millions of dollars in potential exposure [~$179 per each individual data iteration as currently calculated].

A side workstream that I am driving is our supplier compliance and oversight, a huge portion of which is Information Privacy and Security Agreements, their adherence and associated liability. We have regular audits across all partners/suppliers who even have tangential access to customer data [for instance, someone who produces and executes on email distribution but has no direct access to our actual CRM data; still must comply to IPSA requirements].

The reality is that nothing is foolproof, but these issues are taken very seriously with a ton of corporate scrutiny placed on protecting our stakeholders and their respective data.

"Anyone is free to deactivate or delete their facebook profile at any time without repercussions, and once you do all of your information is deactivated or deleted with it. "

HOW?

As I said before I have tried, without success, for about 9 years to get out of that Facebook quagmire.


My next posting will be about a shave with a Valet Auto Shave VC1 single edge razor from about 1935. I promise.
It looks rather daunting. It is an open comb with a lot of naked blade protruding from it.

This is pretty simple IMO.  If you don't want your SOTD pictures to be on those social media outlets, then don't post them in here.  Every problem has a solution fellows.

Full disclosure, I don't belong or have ever belonged to any of those outlets.

"Anyone is free to deactivate or delete their facebook profile at any time without repercussions, and once you do all of your information is deactivated or deleted with it. "

HOW?

As I said before I have tried, without success, for about 9 years to get out of that Facebook quagmire.


My next posting will be about a shave with a Valet Auto Shave VC1 single edge razor from about 1935. I promise.
It looks rather daunting. It is an open comb with a lot of naked blade protruding from it.

Its right there in ykur account settings. Delete account and deactivate account. Delete is permanent and deactivate is retreivable.

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"....ykur account settings......"   ?