PSA: Wald Shaving Drop

Beg to differ. Contrived demand generation

I beg to differ. The truth is you have no way of knowing what anyone's motives or intentions are for pursuing a particular business model in this space.

I might think someone like you is simply a blow-hard in pursuit of significance. But I have no way of know what really goes on in your head.

We adopted releases because it was the best approach we could come up with at the time. Demand generation wasn't the problem back then. It was trying to find a fair way to make the limited number of brushes we could make available on a level playing field. 

Rudy make brushes differently than we do. And he should know that. The difference accounts for a lot. 

If you don't like the way someone does business, why not just let it be instead of taking a dump?

Ken,

Politely as possible:

No other artisan bad mouths his colleagues publicly, only you. Your attitude displayed towards your fellow industry businessmen is atrocious. But the open disdain you express towards.customers is even more sui generis and indicative of who you are as a person.

You have repeatedly insulted some of the finest men in the industry unrighteously and unprovoked. I am not everybody else; I won't have it.

Every day not encountering you and your poisonous posts is a joy to my heart. Intentionally not thinking of your dour, even bitter mysanthropy is a relief.

It is a shame; your brushes are not bad but the thought of being associated with you in any way was so repugnant, I sold my entire inventory of Paladin, cheaply too. But the joy of having you out of my life was worth the cost. Unfortunately, like cancer, you keep making an unwelcome reappearance.

Am not one to wish people ill but I do wish you would go away out of my life permanently. Good day and hope you reflect on your treatment of others; it is never too late to contritely amend one's ways.

Apologies to all that have had to witness this but have had enough and enough is too much.

DanLaw, it seems to me you've had some kind of axe to grind with Paladin ever since I declined your pitch for us to give you a particular brush you had a fancy for in exchange for allowing you to boost our profile via one of your pass-arounds.

I challenge you here and now to cite one example of anything I've ever said or written anywhere that was either untrue or expressed with disregard for what the truth might be.

What I have said, to which I assume you are referring, is that despite claims that Lee Sabini was a master handle maker, or knot maker, he was personally never either of those things. And that was never intended to deny him any of the immense credit he is due.

I have also corrected misstatements regarding how the handles Lee procured from Frank McInroy were made.

Bring it!

Once upon a time (probably 2016) Andrew asked if we'd do an LE for DFS. He and I had a long conversation by phone. One comment he made that stuck with me was that "someone needs to keep the vendors honest." I think that's verbatim.

I don't take any issue with that. But the fact is that oftentimes it's other vendors or makers who are in the best position to call out lies and bullshit (i.e., statement made with disregard -be it negligent, reckless, or intentional - for whatever the truth might actually be).

It's my impression that your view is that you can say whatever you want whenever you want at whatever expense to whomever you're not shilling for, but that it's not OK for those who actually make things for the wet-shaving community, often as their livelihoods, to tell the truth when their Ox is being gored.

I'm posting this here because it seems to me it's where it best belongs. That said, based on past experience, I expect to be moderated. If that happens, I'll take it where I don't have to worry about that happening.

I'm posting this here because it seems to me it's where it best belongs. That said, based on past experience, I expect to be moderated. If that happens, I'll take it where I don't have to worry about that happening.

That sounds quite unfair... in my opinion the moderators here give a TON of leeway. I'm having difficulty thinking of a time when they censored someone's posts. As far as I recall, they just typically lock a thread and let everyone cool off.

Is there anyway we can beat them to it and bring it down a few degrees first?

So, back to the original thread topic... I hope.

I've been moderated here twice. Once for a response to Brad Sears, which was completely factual, and once for a response to Dan Law, which was completely factual.

What I said was "I expect to be moderated." That was a true statement. If I turn out to be wrong, that'll be great!

One dude trying to meet global demand for a unique product. I, for one, am grateful that Wald now has an option to order "in stock" items like Calyx and Delphi. I ordered a Calyx in January, received it in a reasonable time, and immensely enjoy the unique Wald knot experience. The Calyx handle is very comfortable in my hand, and the knot is indeed unique. I couldn't be happier to order at my convenience.

With patience, after a few years in the hobby, I have the good fortune to own a Calyx, a Paladin, and a Rudy Vey. I am happy to support such excellent artisans. Being a guy trying to hold together a family and work obligations, I would feel like a jerk if I demanded unrealistic expectations on solo practitioners in a niche market.

Amen. We have some amazing artisans in shaving. It's fun, sometimes, to browse the Brush of the Day thread and look at all of the pretty things. Lol.

In review, I first reponded to this statement: "Contrived demand generation."

That's pretty insulting to Wald, whom I know nothing about.

It also smacks of painting with a very broad (and somewhat passive aggressive) brush.

There's an unmistakable pattern.

Dan's response was over-the-top. Also piece of a pattern.

My personal experience in being moderated here is that the focus was on bringing the heat down, but without any assessment of relative fault or merit.

That might be even-handed, but not in a good way.

I don’t think it’s fair to Jannik to have this argument on the Wald thread. DanLaw, you said your piece, ChiefBroom, you said yours, can we return to Wald now?

I don’t think it’s fair to Jannik to have this argument on the Wald thread. DanLaw, you said your piece, ChiefBroom, you said yours, can we return to Wald now?

Absolutely, but here's something to consider. My initial post was in defense of Wald, although I know nothing about him. Dan's reply was an over-the-top broadside directed at me personally. Am I supposed to let that stand without a response? That's the issue. And this is the third time I've had it happen here. The alternatives to letting it slide or not responding in the same thread are 1) start another thread on-topic to Dan's attack or 2) take it somewhere else where Dan could not respond and those who read his post probably would not follow. In my view that would be a bad combination of chickenshit on my part and also ineffective.

If Dan has something to say, let him say it in public where I can respond in public.

Dan's comment with regard to Wald's motive for using brush releases was completely out of line. He doesn't have a clue. It does the community no favor to give him immunity from having his BS challenged.

I get that. And I’m not a mod. I appreciate that DFS is not a heavy-mod place. But now that you’ve both spoken on this issue a few times…