On Chinese copies

Do not sell the Chinese short on inventiveness. They created some of the most important inventions in history.

Paper to replace papyrus.
Moveable type for printing presses to replace carved plates
Gunpowder
The compass without which the Americas would never have been located by Europeans.
Alcohol brewing
The first mechanical clocks
Production of tea
Producing silk fabrics from silkworms
The umbrella without which the British would stay soaked.
Acupuncture as a medical practice
Smelting and forging iron.
Porcelain
The first seismograph t detect earthquakes
Rockets fueled with gunpowder
Bronze- China was the first country to enter the bronze age.
The Kite
The seed drill to plant rows of seeds. That is the forerunner of modern planters.
Farming in rows. Where would the corn farmers of the Midwest be without that invention.
The toothbrush made from horsehair and bamboo; now copied in plastic.
Paper money was first printed in China as an outgrowth of paper making and moveable type.

To give credit where credit is due, this list is not my own but copied from the website below. Those who believe the Chinese lack inventiveness should read this page along with the references.

https://china.usc.edu/sites/default/file...ntions.pdf

Your point is well taken.  However I wasn't criticizing their inventiveness, but their lack of conceptual fluidity and their tendency to groupthink.  This is by no means an exclusively Chinese problem.  Very few people think for themselves.  Which is why democracies fail, always gravitating to the lowest common denominator.  

Lastly, the invention of paper money has enabled a small group of very cruel and greedy people to create money out of thin air and lend it at usury; enriching themselves whilst impoverishing the rest of us and setting us at war against each other.  If there's a hell, they belong there.

Since China is far from being a democracy, even though they have an elected president, I am not sure the comment about "democracies fail, always gravitating to the lowest common denominator." has anything to do with this particular thread. 

As for printed money facilitating greed, there was greed long before the first paper money was ever printed. Today we have greed with digital currency with no paper being needed. So do not blame the Chinese.

all, let's keep this about wet shaving, not politics...

if you want to talk politics, you can PM me.

I think lots of countries tend to copy each other. Cause you gotta think, when one comes up with a great invention like the wheel, that goes on the bottom of a car, why re-invent the wheel? Every successful country, produces cars with wheels on the bottom of them, their not using some hyper futuristic tech like magneto drives. And if I am not mistaken, it was med-evil Egypt that we have to thank, for bringing us the invention of the wheel. Cause if you gotta move a lot of stone, for miles, to build pyramids, the wheel most certainly helps to make that easier, to role the stone to their destination. 

And lest not forget, India did a fairly good job of copying the Rex Ambassador, with the Peral Flexi razor. And while I do not own the Peral Flexi, I've read enough reviews on it to know, that its been reported to be, a much smoother shaving razor, then that of the Rex Ambassador. USA are also copy cats as well! Think about how many words are used in our English language, that are actually French for example. The Word garage = French. Ron da voo = Fench! While China most certainly is not my favorite country in the world for obvious reasons, lest not forget, the entire world copy cats from one another, none of us can be called saints. 

And furthermore, if you look at the animal kingdom closely, there is scientific evidence, that shows that some animals copy things from other animals, whether it be food forging, hunting strategies, you name it. And if you think about it from a philosophical perspective, the art of copying, is in itself, a form of evolution. We learn from each other, we learn from the planet, we adapt, we persevere, and we are problem solvers. Cause you gotta ask yourself, why are we the only species who have built rockets and gone to the moon in the first place? Because our species is best suited at adapting and problem solving. 

I agree, lets keep the politics out of it. But at the same time, I think we can all agree, we wouldn't be where we are today, if we didn't copy a little from each other lol.

I think lots of countries tend to copy each other. Cause you gotta think, when one comes up with a great invention like the wheel, that goes on the bottom of a car, why re-invent the wheel? Every successful country, produces cars with wheels on the bottom of them, their not using some hyper futuristic tech like magneto drives. And if I am not mistaken, it was med-evil Egypt that we have to thank, for bringing us the invention of the wheel. Cause if you gotta move a lot of stone, for miles, to build pyramids, the wheel most certainly helps to make that easier, to role the stone to their destination.

And lest not forget, India did a fairly good job of copying the Rex Ambassador, with the Peral Flexi razor. And while I do not own the Peral Flexi, I've read enough reviews on it to know, that its been reported to be, a much smoother shaving razor, then that of the Rex Ambassador. USA are also copy cats as well! Think about how many words are used in our English language, that are actually French for example. The Word garage = French. Ron da voo = Fench! While China most certainly is not my favorite country in the world for obvious reasons, lest not forget, the entire world copy cats from one another, none of us can be called saints.

And furthermore, if you look at the animal kingdom closely, there is scientific evidence, that shows that some animals copy things from other animals, whether it be food forging, hunting strategies, you name it. And if you think about it from a philosophical perspective, the art of copying, is in itself, a form of evolution. We learn from each other, we learn from the planet, we adapt, we persevere, and we are problem solvers. Cause you gotta ask yourself, why are we the only species who have built rockets and gone to the moon in the first place? Because our species is best suited at adapting and problem solving.

I agree, lets keep the politics out of it. But at the same time, I think we can all agree, we wouldn't be where we are today, if we didn't copy a little from each other lol.

I think lots of countries tend to copy each other. Cause you gotta think, when one comes up with a great invention like the wheel, that goes on the bottom of a car, why re-invent the wheel? Every successful country, produces cars with wheels on the bottom of them, their not using some hyper futuristic tech like magneto drives. And if I am not mistaken, it was med-evil Egypt that we have to thank, for bringing us the invention of the wheel. Cause if you gotta move a lot of stone, for miles, to build pyramids, the wheel most certainly helps to make that easier, to role the stone to their destination.

And lest not forget, India did a fairly good job of copying the Rex Ambassador, with the Peral Flexi razor. And while I do not own the Peral Flexi, I've read enough reviews on it to know, that its been reported to be, a much smoother shaving razor, then that of the Rex Ambassador. USA are also copy cats as well! Think about how many words are used in our English language, that are actually French for example. The Word garage = French. Ron da voo = Fench! While China most certainly is not my favorite country in the world for obvious reasons, lest not forget, the entire world copy cats from one another, none of us can be called saints.

And furthermore, if you look at the animal kingdom closely, there is scientific evidence, that shows that some animals copy things from other animals, whether it be food forging, hunting strategies, you name it. And if you think about it from a philosophical perspective, the art of copying, is in itself, a form of evolution. We learn from each other, we learn from the planet, we adapt, we persevere, and we are problem solvers. Cause you gotta ask yourself, why are we the only species who have built rockets and gone to the moon in the first place? Because our species is best suited at adapting and problem solving.

I agree, lets keep the politics out of it. But at the same time, I think we can all agree, we wouldn't be where we are today, if we didn't copy a little from each other lol.

At first I thought you were quoting my post, but it looks likes you just copy and pasted it for some reason? So looking to see if you made any changes, I put my post, and your post through a word counter, and there is a character count difference. But for the life of me, I can't spot the difference. Next time, if you make a change, please highlight it, thanks!

Oh, so you were bothered when your original work was copied and reproduced without attribution as if I had written it? Yes, I copied it. Why?

1. as a cute little joke about copying a post that asks what's the harm in copying.

2. To illustrate that while it is true society/science/arts advance through adaptation/evolution/iteration, there is a difference between "fair use" and "theft."

What's the harm in Pearl copying the Rex Ambassador? It is theft of a modern currently manufactured high-level razor designed, marketed, and sold by Rex Supply Co. The inventor and manufacturer bears the cost of developing a new and unique product. Article I of the U.S. Constitution protects inventors by protecting patents, copyrights, and trademarks "to promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries." We may disagree about how long "limited times" should run, but it is clear that the Rex Ambassador was well within the reasonable time to protect its invention when copied by Pearl.

Copying old out of production products is "fair use". Copying currently produced protected products is "theft." When Yaqi or Phoenix Artisan Accoutrements or Heritage Collection Shaving bring back and/or improve on a design from the past, we all benefit. The Gillette Tech is the basis for many modern razors. But Gillette is no longer producing the Tech. Yes, the Rex Ambassador was based on the Gibbs. But the Gibbs is long out of production. Blackland, Rex, Henson, and other modern innovators should be able to enjoy the benefits of significant development and marketing costs for some limited time before cheap and substandard copies erode their place in the marketplace.

Oh, so you were bothered when your original work was copied and reproduced without attribution as if I had written it? Yes, I copied it. Why?

1. as a cute little joke about copying a post that asks what's the harm in copying.

2. To illustrate that while it is true society/science/arts advance through adaptation/evolution/iteration, there is a difference between "fair use" and "theft."

What's the harm in Pearl copying the Rex Ambassador? It is theft of a modern currently manufactured high-level razor designed, marketed, and sold by Rex Supply Co. The inventor and manufacturer bears the cost of developing a new and unique product. Article I of the U.S. Constitution protects inventors by protecting patents, copyrights, and trademarks "to promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries." We may disagree about how long "limited times" should run, but it is clear that the Rex Ambassador is well within the reasonable time to protect its invention when copied by Pearl.

Copying old out of production products is "fair use". Copying currently produced protected products is "theft."

Was not lost on (even an uneducated idiot such as) me.

Well played indeed!

Was not lost on (even an uneducated idiot such as) me.

Well played indeed!

Well, I am not a mind reader, so clearly you got some skills lol

Oh, so you were bothered when your original work was copied and reproduced without attribution as if I had written it? Yes, I copied it. Why?

1. as a cute little joke about copying a post that asks what's the harm in copying.

2. To illustrate that while it is true society/science/arts advance through adaptation/evolution/iteration, there is a difference between "fair use" and "theft."

What's the harm in Pearl copying the Rex Ambassador? It is theft of a modern currently manufactured high-level razor designed, marketed, and sold by Rex Supply Co. The inventor and manufacturer bears the cost of developing a new and unique product. Article I of the U.S. Constitution protects inventors by protecting patents, copyrights, and trademarks "to promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries." We may disagree about how long "limited times" should run, but it is clear that the Rex Ambassador was well within the reasonable time to protect its invention when copied by Pearl.

Copying old out of production products is "fair use". Copying currently produced protected products is "theft." When Yaqi or Phoenix Artisan Accoutrements or Heritage Collection Shaving bring back and/or improve on a design from the past, we all benefit. The Gillette Tech is the basis for many modern razors. But Gillette is no longer producing the Tech. Yes, the Rex Ambassador was based on the Gibbs. But the Gibbs is long out of production. Blackland, Rex, Henson, and other modern innovators should be able to enjoy the benefits of significant development and marketing costs for some limited time before cheap and substandard copies erode their place in the marketplace.

Yep, I get it now, point taken. I honestly was confused more then anything else.

Intent was manifest in context