#81
Is the handle hollow all the way through or just at the end to fit the stand?
#82
Just at the bottom to accommodate the stand.

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#83
Very much enjoying reading the comments and feedback so far gents. Really happy to have the support and participating of this forum!


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#84
Final shave with the Envoy tonight before sending it off to the next person. As promised, tonight I compared the Envoy to the Ambassador. Half of my face I used the Envoy for however many passes it would take to give me a BBS and the same with the Ambassador on the other side. For this comparison, I allowed myself to use the Ambassador as I normally would, which meant starting at setting 3 for WTG, moving to 2 for ATG and touch up at 3.5. The Envoy I played with the angles I learned over the last two nights and relied on my shaving skills, which may or may not be a good thing.

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In comparing both razors, the size and weight was almost identical. The head on the Ambassador was thicker (because of the adjustment plate), but the shape of the cap and the guard was the same. There is a problem spot on each side of my face which requires attention, but in different areas and different types of attention. The Ambassador went first and did the left side of my face. Going WTG, I immediately noticed that it was harder to get a good angle under my nose going WTG. Not a major problem, but I knew that the Envoy would handle that area easier. I used the angle I learned with the Envoy on the Ambassador, and it did allow for a smoother pass. The Envoy had no problem with the WTG pass.

Comparing the two sides after the first pass, the Ambassador did slightly better, especially in handling the problem area on the left side of my face, however, both razors did a very good job. ATG pass went to the Ambassador at setting 2. The shave was much more comfortable and the newly found angle made it more efficient than before. The Envoy felt a little rougher as I had to change angle slightly to be more efficient. Pass 2 came out with a slight advantage going to the Ambassador.

Partial touch up pass was going XTG under my chin area, which is not easy as there is a lot of loose skin (and maybe an extra chin) in that area. Both razors managed to touch up fine and both sides of my face felt the same.

I have to say that this shave off ended in a tie, even though the Ambassador did better in the first two passes. The Envoy was able to stay close and end in a dead heat.

Will the Envoy be a razor I would consider buying? Definitely not as I already have the Ambassador. Is the Envoy a razor I would recommend to someone that wants a good $100 - $150 stainless steel razor? Definitely.

Lately there has been a lot of $100 - $150 stainless steel razors coming out. Of those, I own a Muhle Rocca and EJ 3one6 and have tried a Blackland Dart. The Envoy is definitely a razor to consider if you are looking at that price range. Fit, finish, and balance is excellent for a razor in that category and even though it is rated squarely in the mid range of aggression, it does allow for different angles and it is a very efficient shaver.

I would like to thank Matt at Razor Emporium and DFS for allowing this pass around, and look forward to everyone else's impressions.

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#85
Shipped to the next tester as of today.

Can't wait to read Shavemd review! Smile

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Henery
#86
i received my envoy razor today. first shave with polsilver blade (2nd use) and only did a two pass. found the razor to be very smooth and there was no issues. was able to get under my nose with no difficulty. had no nicks weepers or irritation. razor is very nice and i like the handle and the weight. i got it on the black friday sale with free shipping along with the stand and i think it was a good deal so thanks to matt and all the folks at emporium. also the shipping was very fast. have a good shave. john

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#87
Razor received. Will get a shave or 2 in the next week and move it along. Will post thoughts as well.

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#88
Mine arrived today as well. Shave tommorow. Pictured with the Gibbs Normal for comparison.[Image: 1e3f77e7450f1be2c29d3a8bb71c3ec6.jpg]

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#89
Envoy with fresh Suneko blade. Fantastic shave.

I had two small gripes when I picked up the razor: the balance point on the razor is rather further south than traditional, likely fitting Matt's hands better than mine, and the handle knurling felt a bit rough. In practice however, neither of these is particularly noticeable during the shave, indeed the heavy handle contributes to a feeling of solidity which is quite impressive.

I like the Envoy more than expected. If you think you need a more aggressive razor work on your technique .

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Rex Envoy (BIC). Tibam titanium handle drops 28g, moves balance point to the traditional grip point I prefer, and makes the razor feel vastly more nimble. [Image: 6ddc8621c1b006083bcd74b72b39b644.jpg]

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