#21

Geezer
New Brunswick, Canada
I don't know who said it first (sources vary) but . . .
"A man who loves sausage and respects the Law should not be permitted either being made."
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#22

Member
Central Maine
(08-26-2023, 03:11 AM)John Rose Wrote: I don't know who said it first (sources vary) but . . .
"A man who loves sausage and respects the Law should not be permitted either being made."

Huh?
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#23

Geezer
New Brunswick, Canada
(08-26-2023, 04:51 AM)ShadowsDad Wrote:
(08-26-2023, 03:11 AM)John Rose Wrote: I don't know who said it first (sources vary) but . . .
"A man who loves sausage and respects the Law should not be permitted either being made."

Huh?
Oops.  Mad
"A man who loves sausage and respects the Law should not be permitted to see either being made."
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#24

Member
Central Maine
FWIW, when I make sausage I'd invite anyone to see it being made. It's all good stuff going into it. Commercial sausage would be different.

Law... Funny you should bring that up. I live in rural Maine so I don't see what goes on in town. I recently spent a year serving as the foreman on a Grand Jury for our county. It was an eye opener. Maine has the lowest violent crime rate of all the states but we delivered indictments for lotsa drugs, from possession to large distribution, rapes, sexual abuse of minors, fraud, manslaughter, all sorts of things. The hardest to listen to were the cases involving sexual abuse of minors. Some people are animals.

Sorry for the detour, back to our thread about vat grown "meat".

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#25

Member
So Cal
(This post was last modified: 08-26-2023, 06:06 PM by johnnylighton.)
(08-26-2023, 02:15 AM)Marko Wrote: I recommend reading How The World Really Works by Vaclav Smil. If you like numbers you’ll love this book. The author gets into detail about the huge advances humans have made in (among other things) producing food over the last 100 or so years and by implication, the threats posed to food production by the decarbonization movement. 
It’s a great book. I don’t see that he’s saying decarbonization is a threat to food production, I think he’s saying that we can’t grow the amount of food the world needs without using the current levels of fossil fuels for food and fertilizer. It’s just not possible. 

In general, he encourages reducing our fossil fuel use where we can. But that in the areas of food production (and ammonia fertilizer), concrete, steel, and plastics, we can’t realistically reduce our fossil fuel use in the next 30 years. 

His two big recommendations for food are that we reduce food waste globally, and that people in wealthy nations reduce their consumption of meat (especially beef and pork) from a high level to a medium-low level.

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