Just a word of caution

Check with Brad Sears - bet he can help

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I guess it's worth reaching out to him again. But I wrote to him when looking for someone to reknot the brush, and he said that he and Lee couldn't help me.

What's the point of saying "Just a word of caution" to warn others if you're not going to say who did it?

What's the point of saying "Just a word of caution" to warn others if you're not going to say who did it?

So that if you want similar work done on a collector grade brush you choose someone you know can do a good job, and you ask them not to do anything that might risk damaging the lettering.

I don’t really want to know who did it. It is just disappointing and I would have felt the same way as the OP.

Understandable, but it should go without saying that you don't want your brush messed up in any way when having it reknotted. Pretty obvious if you ask me. It's great that he got a refund, but still disappointing.

Understandable, but it should go without saying that you don't want your brush messed up in any way when having it reknotted. Pretty obvious if you ask me. It's great that he got a refund, but still disappointing.

So many things can go wrong with a simple R&R knot job.  I’m with you Jeff, common sense isn’t so common anymore and you CANT fix stupid

Yeah, I don’t want a refund.  I want the person who took on the job to reach out to Brad Sears and ask he present a request to Lee Sabini for re-lettering. I paid you to do a job and you didn’t do it.  Now you come back to me with my brush that you damaged; insult me by saying the lettering was fading off the brush BEFORE taking on the job?  Like I’m a moron?  You give me some money back for the work and now it’s ok? Wait, what? You want me to use my valuable time to right your wrong? 

The gesture of refund came after he tossed that brush in a box like rubbish, sent it back to John and then got called out? That’s a question not a statement.  And there certainly wasn’t an apology because that would be admittance of being shady

This is all so interesting and informative. Had no idea that reknotted classic brushes had any value unless reknotted by the original manufacturer/artisan. The vintage marketplace is a different and unique world. 

Sympathies for your loss. Having undertaken some research into reknotting services, not aware of anybody willing to take responsibility for damages. Was there an agreement indemnifying damages?  If so, would love the contact information for future projects

One of the reasons I do not like to take on much re-knots anymore. Especially on such rare brushes.
Removing a knot from a handle is always a risky undertaking. Thank God, I had only a few instances where the handle
did get damaged. Problem is that one needs to drill the residual glue plug out after the hair is cut off. For his,
the handle must be held tight in a vice. To avoid damage, the outside of the handle needs to be protected;
I use special painters tape and then additional protection. Sometimes, the tape may remove some lettering.
There are some ways I use to protect the lettering.
This case, however, looks like the handle was buffed and with doing so, the printing was partially removed.
Out of principle, I do not buff any handle that:
has a printed on lettering
is an aged butterscotch color (buffing will remove or lighten this)

Lately I have only taken on re-knots from former customers who know there is a risk involved.
Another problem is that many amateurs use coins under the knot to shim to certain loft requirements.
This is bad, very bad. One who is doing the re-knot job never knows what was done to a brush before.
The big issue is when your large size forstner drill bits bites into metal....very bad...believe me, it has happened to me!

This is all so interesting and informative. Had no idea that reknotted classic brushes had any value unless reknotted by the original manufacturer/artisan. The vintage marketplace is a different and unique world. 

Sympathies for your loss. Having undertaken some research into reknotting services, not aware of anybody willing to take responsibility for damages. Was there an agreement indemnifying damages?  If so, would love the contact information for future projects

You’re correct Dan, and you bring a very interesting point;  a vintage classic has zero value if it’s re-knotted by ANYONE other than the original Artisan, even if you destroy another brush of the same brand to extract the knot.  Sure, it might look great but it’s really not the same brush anymore now is it? 

I have a brush handle turned by Brett Mozingo, the knot in the handle is a Declaration knot, it’s a collaboration brush of the two Houses.  The only way I can make this brush 100% Mozingo is removal of that B5 and replaced with a Z series knot from Brett, set by Brett.  If the work isn’t done by Brett, in my eyes, it’s not a full Mozingo brush.

Personally, if I were John I would have let ALL the hair fall out and retire the brush because I know the only way to 100% restore that Rooney brush is if Lee Sabini does all the work.

This is all so interesting and informative. Had no idea that reknotted classic brushes had any value unless reknotted by the original manufacturer/artisan. The vintage marketplace is a different and unique world. 

Sympathies for your loss. Having undertaken some research into reknotting services, not aware of anybody willing to take responsibility for damages. Was there an agreement indemnifying damages?  If so, would love the contact information for future projects

You’re correct Dan, and you bring a very interesting point;  a vintage classic has zero value if it’s re-knotted by ANYONE other than the original Artisan, even if you destroy another brush of the same brand to extract the knot.  Sure, it might look great but it’s really not the same brush anymore now is it? 

I have a brush handle turned by Brett Mozingo, the knot in the handle is a Declaration knot, it’s a collaboration brush of the two Houses.  The only way I can make this brush 100% Mozingo is removal of that B5 and replaced with a Z series knot from Brett, set by Brett.  If the work isn’t done by Brett, in my eyes, it’s not a full Mozingo brush.

Personally, if I were John I would have let ALL the hair fall out and retire the brush because I know the only way to 100% restore that Rooney brush is if Lee Sabini does all the work.

Please don't ever destroy that B5 Declaration Grooming knot; implore you, please.

This is all so interesting and informative. Had no idea that reknotted classic brushes had any value unless reknotted by the original manufacturer/artisan. The vintage marketplace is a different and unique world. 

Sympathies for your loss. Having undertaken some research into reknotting services, not aware of anybody willing to take responsibility for damages. Was there an agreement indemnifying damages?  If so, would love the contact information for future projects

You’re correct Dan, and you bring a very interesting point;  a vintage classic has zero value if it’s re-knotted by ANYONE other than the original Artisan, even if you destroy another brush of the same brand to extract the knot.  Sure, it might look great but it’s really not the same brush anymore now is it? 

I have a brush handle turned by Brett Mozingo, the knot in the handle is a Declaration knot, it’s a collaboration brush of the two Houses.  The only way I can make this brush 100% Mozingo is removal of that B5 and replaced with a Z series knot from Brett, set by Brett.  If the work isn’t done by Brett, in my eyes, it’s not a full Mozingo brush.

Personally, if I were John I would have let ALL the hair fall out and retire the brush because I know the only way to 100% restore that Rooney brush is if Lee Sabini does all the work.

Please don't ever destroy that B5 Declaration Grooming knot; implore you, please.

I won’t, it’s not worth the risk: extracting the knot.  Once I tire of the brush, the Fanboys will want this one.  It’s 1 of 2 made and then there were none