#1
Another recent post with complaint against forum and vendor practises closed. Yes, it is like going on a date and listening to her talk about the ex boyfriend. But is it a 'dead horse?' We are facing the imminent loss of net neutrality and ISPs selling our information like a pimp on a street. We
have 'fake news' and 'alternative facts.'
None of this is new. My mother was born in Fort Wayne Indiana and spent her early years in a small town of mostly dutch and germans. The postmaster was lutheran and hated catholics. He sat on the local draft board in WW1 and all the catholic boys went first. After his death and some needed rennovations a huge cache of undelivered letters was found in a wall, much like those old used razor blade slots. Inside were decades of opened letters to the catholics. My family has one; delivered from Prussia explaining why this family member of high social class ( Manfred Von Betten and Catholic) was immigrating with a new wife with child ( pregnant and Lutheran) who had the manners of a housemaid, because, oh the shame, she was. It had that precurser to a password, a broken wax seal on the envelope with elegant fountain penmanship and no smilies or LOLs. It wasn't delivered and whatever social consequences that, and hundreds of other censured correspondence held now lies in graveyards.
There are issues in the commercial aspect of this curious hobby we share that extend into prejudices and ethical and sometimes legal business behaviour. It can get ugly. But if we do not discuss it A. It will only get uglier and B. An even uglier vendor who wiped out the retail book industry
will be dictating where we buy our crap from.

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#2

That Bald Guy with the Big Beard
Bishop, CA
There is a reason forums like the "big dogs" are dying, and DFS is growing...

Unfortunately, new shavers find the big ones first, and they think they have found Nirvana. They get very excited and happy about the "gentlemanly behavior" and get all starry-eyed over the guys using straights that make it seem like you need to sacrifice a lamb under the light of a full moon to get a decent edge and wield a straight.

However, it doesn't take long, if they venture beyond the "Beginner's Forum", to find that seedy underbelly, and realize that the "gentlemanly behavior" is subjective and dependent upon the mood of the moderators. They quickly realize that the primary reason for things seeming to be so highly regarded is because negative responses are evaporated. They find out that certain members can say and do just about anything they want, while others are routinely warned or even banned for speaking innocuous and valid criticisms.

Like any other "media outlet", there are 2 kinds of viewers: those that take everything as stated, at face value, and those that take everything with a healthy dose of skepticism and an eye to self-discovery...

The ones that are skeptical move on to forums like DFS that don't operate as a megaphone for a specific company.

The others...well...there is room enough for everyone in this hobby, I suppose...

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#3

Super Moderator
San Diego, Cal., USA
Why is Yogi Berra's famous bon mot coming to mind about this thread, 'IT'S DEJA VU ALL OVER AGAIN'? Rolleyes

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#4
The argument goes something like ' I started and pay for this forum, the constitution doesn't apply. If you don't like it, go start your own.' And that, is what happens until it looks like the main drag of fast food joints where a mom and pop chicken diner used to have these great biscuits. If you complain about the fries not being vegan as advertised the city
councilman/ insurance salesman with plumbing side job tells you they bring taxes in for his mainstreet fountain honouring the town's war dead or something. But my cigarette lighter in the storm isn't just about boorish behaviour by people who went from chilkdhood to senility and skipped adulthood. The internet phenomenon is no more static than that state of the art old black rotary dial bell telephone. We no longer have reverse charges, information, heavy breathing loveless men or that sexy voice announcing bell telephone time. Forums can be put out of business on a oligarch's whim to increase his percentile by 2 points like that chicken diner.
#5

Administrator
Philadelphia, PA
forums are relevant if they're ran well...people tend to like forums because they're typically structured better than social media sites or places like reddit. JMHO...

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Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito.
#6
(This post was last modified: 03-30-2017, 09:23 PM by KAV.)
Alpha Books on Ventura BLVD was well run for 30 years. Betty had a Samovar with Persian Tea and a black cat. She sold me the complete works of Joseph Conrad ( 26 hardback volumes) when I was a little buzzed on pizza and a pitcher of beer when my G.I. Bill check came in. But she made up for it finding an old US Department of the Interior manual on managing sled dogs in Alaska I saw in another arcane reference. I can now pilot small boats in heavy seas, fly a sailplane, pack mules and mush sled dogs if called upon. She was pushed out by Amazon and there have been 3 pizza parlours, a yogurt store, dollar store, praise him fellowhip and now a zen massage parlour at the old location. Jeff Bezos wont do anything beyond Harry Potter. All of this; forums, artisan products, bickering tribes can easilly be tommorow's Max Headroom.

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#7

The Dude Abides
Florida
This is a shaving related site. It is not a philosophic site, it's not a site meant to discuss the future of news, the future of life, politics and what not. It's a shaving forum, can we try to post topics related to shaving? Especially in the GENERAL SHAVING TALK sub forum?

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Doug

Careful, man, there's a beverage here! - The Dude
#8

Posting Freak
The thread was discussing shaving forums in a general sense and while this may be better located in the Lounge portion of this forum, we are all complex individuals and can't always be constrained by categories. I mean, what is shaving really? Is it a metaphor for life? Thanks for grounding us wingdo Big Grin

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#9

Posting Freak
Canada
shaving = love = happiness Rolleyes

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Celestino
Love, Laughter & Shaving  Heart
#10
Philosophy, politics, future news and life? I brought up issue that hamstrings the progress of wetshaving to grow; which I assume is of interest to vendors and artisans. I made warning of a direct threat to our internet access of shaving information. Excuse me and invoke your inner dinosaur munching on a ginko biloba while this fireball grows larger in
the sky, return your seat to the upright position and don't worry, somebody else always brings more beer and pizza takeout.Oh, the apartment complex where your ikon lived recently sold to a developer who has forced the renters out as part of L.A.s continuing gentrification. The dude may abide, but not there.


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