Different Artesian same head/handles

You're really stretching now... Again... You don't want to see the difference between a OneBlade and a cart, or a Gillette from a Merkur...

How different were the 1912 and the 1914 SE's? To you, it's the same razor, but 2 very different patents.

And look, if you get great shaves from the clones, I'm happy for you, but that's not what this thread is about, and saying it is is just muddying the waters.

And sorry, there are accepted knockoff designer clothes that the copiers put their own names on when they steal the design and pass it off as an original. Same with razors.

Good points all...

Regarding "knockoffs"- not exactly... there is no deception. Nobody is misrepresenting by indicating these are in fact Merkur heads etc. Vendors are taking advantage of a scalable manufacturing house to bring low cost razors to the market and leveraging capability they don't have inhouse.

Having said that I own Merkur, Muhle, EJ, etc. and the SB Parker razors are not even exact copies but derivative as is every other SB razor out there [including in fact Merkur and EJ too being derivative of Techs, News, etc.]. The OC versions of the same are even more substantially different and in fact, finish aside, I like them MUCH better than Merkur/Muhle/EJ.

Lying by omission is a form of deception, and has long been accepted as such. Otherwise, why wouldn't they disclose provenance? It would hurt sales, and not build the 'original' image being peddled.

There is no lying, there is nothing to disclose, there is no deception.

You have this inane idea that these vendors are trying to.pull a fast one, and they are not. Tbey are offering a mass produced lroduct that satisfies a need.

They are not making claims to anything other than that. There is no deception. None.

What, exactly do you want them to disclose? That their razors, like every other razor available today, is based on someone else's design?

Maybe you want thembto dosclose that a consumer could pay more money for virtually the same razor elsewhere?

What is it, precisely, that you find deceptive in offering mass-produced razors at introductory prices with their own name on it?

Intelligent people already know that...

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Intelligent people already know that...

Apparently not, unless you are trying to insult the OP.

He's out $200, and I guarantee you he's not the only one.

And yes, simply state that the razor is built on whatever classic design they are copying. Not difficult, but they don't do that for a reason.

The OP has already established an admitted that it was his failure to research his purchases. It is fairly easy to recognize the similarities in these razors with even a cursory look at images, reviews, and descriptions.

He is not "out" anything. He has 3 very similar razors that he can either keep, trade, or sell. His experience is a warning to others to research and understand what they are buying, which is a very valuable warning for all to heed.

That is vastly different than accusing vendors and artisans of wrongdoing and intentional deception based on a fallacy...

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So people have to hunt on hidden threads, maybe years old, on forums they've never heard of because a vendor won't disclose the truth of provenance in the product description? Lame...

So that begs the queation of why you hold vendors of an inexpensive razor to a higher standars than vendors of expensive razors?

You havebt yet acknowledged that there has been very little real innovstion in razor desing, even by the top tier of todays artisan makers. They are following the same designs that have been laid out for years, just as Maggards is.

So why should Maggards be required ti state that their design is based on XX brand razor, but not Wolfman? Is it price or country of manufacture?

For that matter why arent ALL modern blade manufacturers required to disclose that their blade designs are based on XX blade design from 100 years ago, when they are clearly virtually identical?

The point being, again, and again, and again, that there is no deception. None. Not even an implied deception. Not even a tiny little bit of misleading is present.

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I think it's clear that the Wolfman is a DE razor, in the same category as every other DE ever made. But it ain't the same design. If you can't see that, I really don't know what to tell you.

Not every car is the same either, just because they have 4 wheels.

But if you make a replica, it's really not hard to disclose the fact unless you're hiding something.

To whit... Look on the average vendor sites, the clones contain hardly any description, while original designs have paragraphs and pages of design notes and provincial information.

Wow, dude.

The vendors selling inexpensive razors have done nothing wrong. Period. Not ethically, not morally, not even perceived deception. Nothing wrong.

Clearly your only real interest is in bashing vendors you think are beneath you, and accusing them of wrongdoing that has never been done.

Cool, bro! Do you!

But we are done here.

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