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A. Feitar
Portland, OR
I recently picked this old DE up at an antique store here in Portland, Oregon.  There are no makers marks.  It appears to be chrome over some metal but not brass.  The head looks similar to a Gillette Tech except for the posts that go though the base plate.

Any ideas?

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(This post was last modified: 06-24-2020, 11:02 PM by jmudrick.)
(06-24-2020, 09:31 PM)A. Feitar Wrote: I recently picked this old DE up at an antique store here in Portland, Oregon.  There are no makers marks.  It appears to be chrome over some metal but not brass.  The head looks similar to a Gillette Tech except for the posts that go though the base plate.

Any ideas?

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It's a Club or Hospital razor , same razor different branding. Some think mid 1930s which actually predates the Tech but I haven't seen any firm documentation. The Doehler-Jarvis produced handle appears on other razors of the mid and late 40s (Krect, Cooper, and Berkeley) so it's also possible the Club/Hospital appears during that later period.

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Ed: I think I mixed up my Cooper and Club handles, that I believe belongs to the Cooper.

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#3

A. Feitar
Portland, OR
Thanks for the information. Greatly appreciated. Now I just have to see how it shaves...........
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(This post was last modified: 06-24-2020, 11:33 PM by BPman.)
(06-24-2020, 10:04 PM)A. Feitar Wrote: ...Now I just have to see how it shaves...........

Just like a pre-war Tech if not a frog hair more "aggressive". I have one as well.

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#5
That razor could also be a Star DE razor.
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(06-24-2020, 09:45 PM)jmudrick Wrote:
(06-24-2020, 09:31 PM)A. Feitar Wrote: I recently picked this old DE up at an antique store here in Portland, Oregon.  There are no makers marks.  It appears to be chrome over some metal but not brass.  The head looks similar to a Gillette Tech except for the posts that go though the base plate.

Any ideas?

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[Image: a7ddnwS.jpg]
[Image: P2jqWMC.jpg]
[Image: igXUnIO.jpg]
It's a Club or Hospital razor , same razor different branding. Some think mid 1930s which actually predates the Tech but I haven't seen any firm documentation. The Doehler-Jarvis produced handle appears on other razors of the mid and late 40s (Krect, Cooper, and Berkeley) so it's also possible the Club/Hospital appears during that later period.

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Ed: I think I mixed up my Cooper and Club handles, that I believe belongs to the Cooper.

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These style of razors, Club, Hospital, Cooper, etc all appear during WWII from about 43 onward.
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Just Here for the Shaves
Williamsburg, KY
I see the OP is no longer a memebr here but for anyone curious you can find info on this and similar razors here
https://damnfineshave.com/thread-krect-s...urve-razor
This post by Dave in KY mentions views and opinions expressed and makes it known that they are "those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of DFS or any other member, agency, organization, employer or company."  Big Grin
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(09-07-2020, 08:55 PM)BBS Wrote:
(06-24-2020, 09:45 PM)jmudrick Wrote:
(06-24-2020, 09:31 PM)A. Feitar Wrote: I recently picked this old DE up at an antique store here in Portland, Oregon.  There are no makers marks.  It appears to be chrome over some metal but not brass.  The head looks similar to a Gillette Tech except for the posts that go though the base plate.

Any ideas?

[Image: cVVqaft.jpg]
[Image: d60eQvU.jpg]
[Image: a7ddnwS.jpg]
[Image: P2jqWMC.jpg]
[Image: igXUnIO.jpg]
It's a Club or Hospital razor , same razor different branding. Some think mid 1930s which actually predates the Tech but I haven't seen any firm documentation. The Doehler-Jarvis produced handle appears on other razors of the mid and late 40s (Krect, Cooper, and Berkeley) so it's also possible the Club/Hospital appears during that later period.

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Ed: I think I mixed up my Cooper and Club handles, that I believe belongs to the Cooper.

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These style of razors, Club, Hospital, Cooper, etc all appear during WWII from about 43 onward.
What documentation do you have to date the Hospital and Clubs?

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(This post was last modified: 09-08-2020, 03:43 AM by BBS.)
(09-07-2020, 11:28 PM)jmudrick Wrote:
(09-07-2020, 08:55 PM)BBS Wrote:
(06-24-2020, 09:45 PM)jmudrick Wrote: It's a Club or Hospital razor , same razor different branding. Some think mid 1930s which actually predates the Tech but I haven't seen any firm documentation. The Doehler-Jarvis produced handle appears on other razors of the mid and late 40s (Krect, Cooper, and Berkeley) so it's also possible the Club/Hospital appears during that later period.

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Ed: I think I mixed up my Cooper and Club handles, that I believe belongs to the Cooper.

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These style of razors, Club, Hospital, Cooper, etc all appear during WWII from about 43 onward.
What documentation do you have to date the Hospital and Clubs?

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The handle itself. First off Hospital and Club (the American one) are the same company different brands, Hospital didn't get into selling razors or blades until 1945. If they were selling either you'd see mention of it in the ad space over at newspapers.com. Hospital's main product from 1905ish until 1945 was toilet paper. Now on to that handle the earliest instances of it are reliably dated to the Cooper Kant Rust razors which came onto the market in 1943 when finally dropped the old Sweedo style handles for good outside of straggler excess inventory that was sold along side the Kant Rust razors until the end of WWII. The only way to date them any earlier is show Hospital or Club had any other razors with different style handles. The razor heads were most likely made by Star for Hospital also. ASR under the Star brand doesn't get into DE razors or blades until after WWII started, the bakelite ones were done for military contracts primarily but also sold at retail they also started making DE blades in 1942. That puts that razor head design no earlier than that. The later Star razors with the brass handles that have the same style of razor head show up starting in either 1946 or 47. I've also seen a few examples of Star branded razors with that same style cast head and in a nickel or silver style of plate matching the handle so that would put the Star razor head like the one you see on the Hospital razors between 43 - 45 or 46.
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(This post was last modified: 09-08-2020, 03:49 AM by BBS.)
I should also say the Hospital and later Star razor heads are similar but not the same, the Hospital ones the lather channel is the same as the pre war Gillette 3pc Techs while the later Star Razors are the same as the post war Techs which came onto market in 1947. The Star razors I've seen with the Kant Rust style handle the same as the one on the Hospital and Club razors I don't remember what style lather channel was on the guard. If they were mismatches they would be the same style as the Silver Star razor heads with the lather channels like the post war Gillette Techs. If the razor head has the pre war style triangular lather channels then would be correct and proof Star made the razor head on the Hospital razors.


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