Barrister and Mann

I have to say, that unless one was there for the original joke, I don't understand its popularity because it is meaningless to anyone else.  It's easier to be clear and state that one is using a product from start to finish rather than give some random number and a whole lot less frustrating to the average person reading it.  I am truly beginning to dislike these crazy and unnecessary shortcuts.  The only one I remember immediately upon seeing is YMMV.  Every other one I have to stop my reading and try to figure out what the heck the poster meant.  I guess I must be the only one so I'll get off my soapbox (for now ).  Again, thanks for the explanation.

Freddy, I’m with you. One problem with acronyms is that sometimes one acronym will mean two or three different things, just as you mentioned concerning “LOL”.

The other thing with acronyms and shortcuts is that oftentimes the original word or saying really isn’t that much longer. How difficult is it to write “your” instead of “ur”? (Guess it’s time for me to get off the soapbox, as well… LOL.)  

"Ur" in place of "your"?!   Matthew, please, please, please tell me you're joking!

I have to say, that unless one was there for the original joke, I don't understand its popularity because it is meaningless to anyone else.  It's easier to be clear and state that one is using a product from start to finish rather than give some random number and a whole lot less frustrating to the average person reading it.  I am truly beginning to dislike these crazy and unnecessary shortcuts.  The only one I remember immediately upon seeing is YMMV.  Every other one I have to stop my reading and try to figure out what the heck the poster meant.  I guess I must be the only one so I'll get off my soapbox (for now ).  Again, thanks for the explanation.

Freddy, Iâ€m with you. One problem with acronyms is that sometimes one acronym will mean two or three different things, just as you mentioned concerning “LOL”.

The other thing with acronyms and shortcuts is that oftentimes the original word or saying really isnâ€t that much longer. How difficult is it to write “your” instead of “ur”? (Guess itâ€s time for me to get off the soapbox, as well… LOL.)  

By the way, Will (Barrister_N_Mann), as a language professional Iâ€ve been wondering lately — do you have a preference between Barrister & Mann and Barrister and Mann, or do you just use them interchangeably? Just curious.

Funny you should ask that, actually. When I originally started the company, I kept the ampersand, but, after the LLC was formed and the trademark forms filed, we decided to go with "Barrister and Mann." So I guess Barrister and Mann it is.

A language professional, you say? What do you do with languages?

I always wondered about this too but I go with "and" since the website has that.

No idea where the term came from, but it means "use it exclusively until it's gone."

Thanks, Will.  I appreciate the explanation but I'll be darned if I can figure out the connection.

Freddy somewhere around 5 years ago a user on another forum sat down and calculated that he had enough soap to last until 2017 [not so far off now].

As a joke, the mods changed the subject from 2017 to 3017. Voila! The term took off to "3017" a soap using it exclusively from start to finish.

Freddy, I’m with you. One problem with acronyms is that sometimes one acronym will mean two or three different things, just as you mentioned concerning “LOL”.

The other thing with acronyms and shortcuts is that oftentimes the original word or saying really isn’t that much longer. How difficult is it to write “your” instead of “ur”? (Guess it’s time for me to get off the soapbox, as well… LOL.)  

By the way, Will (Barrister_N_Mann), as a language professional I’ve been wondering lately — do you have a preference between Barrister & Mann and Barrister and Mann, or do you just use them interchangeably? Just curious.

Funny you should ask that, actually. When I originally started the company, I kept the ampersand, but, after the LLC was formed and the trademark forms filed, we decided to go with "Barrister and Mann." So I guess Barrister and Mann it is.

A language professional, you say? What do you do with languages?

I always wondered about this too but I go with "and" since the website has that.

Will, I was never sure about the ampersand or the use of "and" so thanks for clearing that up.  I have to say, though, your user name here, Barrister_N_Mann is absolutely no help at all.

Funny you should ask that, actually. When I originally started the company, I kept the ampersand, but, after the LLC was formed and the trademark forms filed, we decided to go with "Barrister and Mann." So I guess Barrister and Mann it is.

A language professional, you say? What do you do with languages?

"Ur" in place of "your"?!   Matthew, please, please, please tell me you're joking!

Will, thanks for the explanation! It did seem to me that the ampersand was used more on some of your earlier products, and “and” seems to be the norm nowadays. Both look nice in their own way, the ampersand perhaps more classic, the “and” more modern.

My bilingual (Finnish and English) background, along with a helping of Swedish I learned later in life, has led me to work as a translator, interpreter and proofreader. I try to keep a keen eye on details.  

Freddy, I wish I could say the “ur” thing is just a bad joke, but it is not. Even my mother-in-law uses it in her text messages! I can only imagine what popular English will look like in another 10 years…

No idea where the term came from, but it means "use it exclusively until it's gone."

Thanks, Will.  I appreciate the explanation but I'll be darned if I can figure out the connection.

Freddy somewhere around 5 years ago a user on another forum sat down and calculated that he had enough soap to last until 2017 [not so far off now].

As a joke, the mods changed the subject from 2017 to 3017. Voila! The term took off to "3017" a soap using it exclusively from start to finish.

Funny you should ask that, actually. When I originally started the company, I kept the ampersand, but, after the LLC was formed and the trademark forms filed, we decided to go with "Barrister and Mann." So I guess Barrister and Mann it is.

A language professional, you say? What do you do with languages?

"Ur" in place of "your"?!   Matthew, please, please, please tell me you're joking!

Will, thanks for the explanation! It did seem to me that the ampersand was used more on some of your earlier products, and “and” seems to be the norm nowadays. Both look nice in their own way, the ampersand perhaps more classic, the “and” more modern.

My bilingual (Finnish and English) background, along with a helping of Swedish I learned later in life, has led me to work as a translator, interpreter and proofreader. I try to keep a keen eye on details.  

Freddy, I wish I could say the “ur” thing is just a bad joke, but it is not. Even my mother-in-law uses it in her text messages! I can only imagine what popular English will look like in another 10 years…

Excuse me now while I go into another room and bawl my eyes out.

No idea where the term came from, but it means "use it exclusively until it's gone."

Thanks, Will.  I appreciate the explanation but I'll be darned if I can figure out the connection.

I looked into this some time ago. This is how I understand it, someone else can freely step in to add anything I may have missed.

Aspect 1: On “the big shaving forum” a few years ago, some fellows realized they had enough shaving software to last them to the year 2017. However, some of them also realized that was way too soon, so they added another 100 years. The year 3017 is the year some of these guys assume they will finally have depleted their shaving supplies.

Aspect 2: Along with this realization, someone thought it might be prudent to just use one soap at a time, then after finishing the cream/puck/tub, move on to the next soap. I believe this is called “3017ing” a soap.

As I said, this is my understanding, and I could be wrong, but I hope this helps. Sorry for hijacking the thread, Will.

(See also Kevinâ€s more concise explanation above.)

Glad you're enjoying it, guys. I'm not a big menthol fan myself but, hey, go big or go home, right?

Will, I can guarantee you that there will always be an audience for menthol soaps. Please keep them going!

We'll be making it until the end of August, then bringing it back next year, probably with our new packaging design.

Awesome news! I wasn't sure I would love the peppermint with menthol. But this is unique and I truly love it. Excellent job!

No idea where the term came from, but it means "use it exclusively until it's gone."

Thanks, Will.  I appreciate the explanation but I'll be darned if I can figure out the connection.

I looked into this some time ago. This is how I understand it, someone else can freely step in to add anything I may have missed.

Aspect 1: On “the big shaving forum” a few years ago, some fellows realized they had enough shaving software to last them to the year 2017. However, some of them also realized that was way too soon, so they added another 100 years. The year 3017 is the year some of these guys assume they will finally have depleted their shaving supplies.

Mmmm, I hope also that fellows realized 2017 + 100 years = 2117 not 3017 (2017 + one thousand = 3017)

Mmmm, I hope also that fellows realized  2017 + 100 years = 2117 not 3017 (2017 + one thousand = 3017)

That would be my bad. My brother took all the math genes and left me with — next to nothing, apparently.

Hey Will,

do you have any plans to relaunch "Le Grand Chypre" next year? I am pretty sure there would be a honest demand on the market....

Hey Will,

do you have any plans to relaunch "Le Grand Chypre" next year? I am pretty sure there would be a honest demand on the market....

Considering I just saw a new set go for a crazy price.....I second this, Will!