#471

Posting Freak
tokenaccount I apologize for mistaking you as the writer, however, I inferred from the posting that you were. Obviously I'm mistaken. I don't follow your logic. If I've not published an article I'm not qualified to comment on or criticize any articles? If I've never composed music I'm not qualified to comment on or criticize music? Its my belief that if someone has the desire and the courage to write an opinion piece and publish it then they should also be willing to accept any comment or criticism of that piece whether its fair or not. That just goes with the territory. The writer of that article was criticizing other writers who he believed weren't being sufficiently rigorous in their approach to reviews and I read that as being elitist overly critical of sincere lay persons in their attempts to share their enthusiasm with wet shaving. The article triggered a fair amount of comment and dialogue which is a good thing. Free speech being what it is and all - people are free to write reviews of varying quality and people are free to comment on and even criticize whats been written, even if they themselves have never written an article nor have any desire to.
Mark
#472
(02-03-2016, 04:07 PM)Marko Wrote: tokenaccount I apologize for mistaking you as the writer, however, I inferred from the posting that you were.  Obviously I'm mistaken.  I don't follow your logic.  If I've not published an article I'm not qualified to comment on or criticize any articles?  If I've never composed music I'm not qualified to comment on or criticize music?  Its my belief that if someone has the desire and the courage to write an opinion piece and publish it then they should also be willing to accept any comment or criticism of that piece whether its fair or not.  That just goes with the territory.  The writer of that article was criticizing other writers who he believed weren't being sufficiently rigorous in their approach to reviews and I read that as being elitist overly critical of sincere lay persons in their attempts to share their enthusiasm with wet shaving.  The article triggered a fair amount of comment and dialogue which is a good thing.  Free speech being what it is and all - people are free to write reviews of varying quality and people are free to comment on and even criticize whats been written, even if they themselves have never written an article nor have any desire to.
Mark

Mark,

I humbly accept your apology and note that also being human, I'm prone to the occasional stuff up too Wink
Next time though, I will have to garnish a sizable part of your shaving collection as compensation Tongue

I'm trying to suggest that a LOT of people are willing to sit in the background and criticise those that make an effort, rather than utilising that energy in a positive way by sharing their knowledge.
I am inviting you to channel your energies into a positive and pen an article in an area that you're proficient or well versed within.

I would too, yet openly admit that my knowledge and experience pales in comparison to the average audience here.
I am realistic.

I like how you mention your liberties, your rights, your freedom to speech.
Sadly, most forget those were fought for and there's attached responsibilities to ensure they're a constant.
I felt compelled to speak up as a part of mine.

This is not an attack upon you as a person btw, I don't actually know you, yet what has been posted.
I hope you can distinguish between and appreciate the two and look forward to your future correspondence.
#473

Member
Sydney, Australia
(02-03-2016, 03:44 PM)Barrister_N_Mann Wrote: Completely separate in terms of everything, including scents. That said, trust me when I say that it will be worth the departure.

Are there any differentiating factors you can tell us about at the moment, e.g. is this a step towards more classical perfumery in aftershave format?
#474

Maker of Soaps and Shaver of Men
Cooperstown, NY, USA
(02-04-2016, 01:17 AM)Null Wrote:
(02-03-2016, 03:44 PM)Barrister_N_Mann Wrote: Completely separate in terms of everything, including scents. That said, trust me when I say that it will be worth the departure.

Are there any differentiating factors you can tell us about at the moment, e.g. is this a step towards more classical perfumery in aftershave format?

No, I'm reluctant to reveal too much information because I don't want to influence the feedback we're hoping to get once the samples start going out. Sorry.
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#475
(02-03-2016, 02:56 AM)Barrister_N_Mann Wrote:
(02-03-2016, 02:54 AM)Hobbyist Wrote:
(02-03-2016, 02:14 AM)Barrister_N_Mann Wrote: Historically, we have made everything except the Velvet Leg Lotion (which we don't have the equipment to make). This project is designed to take on the mass market and thus needs to be produced on an industrial scale (which is far beyond my capability). It's actually being manufactured by the same lab that produces Velvet Leg Lotion for us. I've been working on it in secret for 17 months now, but it's finally to the point where I'm ready to start showing it to people and giving it some final polish. Smile

Edit: I just want to point out that this is very much my formula. I worked on it in the lab for 9 months before I even sent it to them (there were certain things that I didn't have the equipment to do properly). It's extremely powerful.

Thanks for explaining Will. I knew you had to at least design the formula, just didn't know how big your operation had grown and was curious. Congrats on the new market expansion.

Unfortunately, it would take considerable capital investment for that kind of equipment. I just don't have that kind of cash on hand, so I went to someone who did. I try to keep as many things as possible in the US, though, so I went to an American manufacturer.

Edit (since I got caught up in explaining things): Thank you! Smile

(02-04-2016, 03:51 AM)Barrister_N_Mann Wrote:
(02-04-2016, 01:17 AM)Null Wrote:
(02-03-2016, 03:44 PM)Barrister_N_Mann Wrote: Completely separate in terms of everything, including scents. That said, trust me when I say that it will be worth the departure.

Are there any differentiating factors you can tell us about at the moment, e.g. is this a step towards more classical perfumery in aftershave format?

No, I'm reluctant to reveal too much information because I don't want to influence the feedback we're hoping to get once the samples start going out. Sorry.

I like that plan!
#476

Member
Sydney, Australia
(02-04-2016, 03:51 AM)Barrister_N_Mann Wrote: No, I'm reluctant to reveal too much information because I don't want to influence the feedback we're hoping to get once the samples start going out. Sorry.

No worries, perfectly understandable. Looking forward to the results, even if I'm not going to be able to get a sample (outside US).
#477

Maker of Soaps and Shaver of Men
Cooperstown, NY, USA
(02-04-2016, 06:40 AM)Null Wrote:
(02-04-2016, 03:51 AM)Barrister_N_Mann Wrote: No, I'm reluctant to reveal too much information because I don't want to influence the feedback we're hoping to get once the samples start going out. Sorry.

No worries, perfectly understandable.  Looking forward to the results, even if I'm not going to be able to get a sample (outside US).

You probably will, actually. Samples have different rules. Where are you located?
“You could leave life right now. Let that determine what you do and say and think.” – Marcus Aurelius

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#478
I love this movement and wish to wake-up early enough to buy some at Shaving Estation. We speak still about the black boxes available in Europe some time ago. B&M European placing rebirth!

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#479

Posting Freak
You probably will, actually. Samples have different rules. Where are you located?
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Will, are any samples going to find their way to Canada? It has been great that almost all of your products, (specifically the alcohol based splashes) have been available at Italian Barber and some other Canadian vendors as well - Badger Shaving, Mens Essentials being the others I think.
Thanks,
Mark
#480

Member
Sydney, Australia
(02-04-2016, 03:16 PM)Barrister_N_Mann Wrote: You probably will, actually. Samples have different rules. Where are you located?

I'm in Australia, was planning to get the Night Music soaps through you, then maybe the aftershaves from IB depending on how things went.


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