Barrister and Mann

He likes them quite a bit actually. Oceana is his new favorite.

Is Oceana still his favorite or has Taiga moved it over?

I hope it doesn't sell out as quick as Hallows did which was like 10 minutes.  Does anyone know how many jars of Hallows were made; am curious as to how it compares to the 500 for Night Music?

I believe I recall Will saying that Hallows was 240 tubs of soap and 200 bottles of aftershave, all sold through his store.  I'm expecting this'll be more like the release of LGC, which was also 500/350 and sold through most of his vendors, which helped even things out.

Hmm... Will, what fragrance would you recommend pairing Night Music with?  I somehow don't think I'm capable of making Shalimar work on me.

Hallows was indeed 240, a gross underestimation/miscalculation on my part (which will not be repeated). All limited releases going forward will be 1,000 jars; once the stock is gone, it's gone, but 1,000 is a large enough number that pretty much everyone who wants one will have the chance to get one.

I would recommend the following as compliments to the vanilla:

Guerlain Jicky
Guerlain Habit Rouge
Diptyque Eau Duelle
Le Labo Patchouli 24 (though some people don't care for the smokiness)

Will - Do you set a limit to the number people can order of Limited Editions?

Is Oceana still his favorite or has Taiga moved it over?

I believe I recall Will saying that Hallows was 240 tubs of soap and 200 bottles of aftershave, all sold through his store.  I'm expecting this'll be more like the release of LGC, which was also 500/350 and sold through most of his vendors, which helped even things out.

Hmm... Will, what fragrance would you recommend pairing Night Music with?  I somehow don't think I'm capable of making Shalimar work on me.

Hallows was indeed 240, a gross underestimation/miscalculation on my part (which will not be repeated). All limited releases going forward will be 1,000 jars; once the stock is gone, it's gone, but 1,000 is a large enough number that pretty much everyone who wants one will have the chance to get one.

I would recommend the following as compliments to the vanilla:

Guerlain Jicky
Guerlain Habit Rouge
Diptyque Eau Duelle
Le Labo Patchouli 24 (though some people don't care for the smokiness)

Will - Do you set a limit to the number people can order of Limited Editions?

I believe it was 3 soaps and 3 aftershaves.

Hallows was indeed 240, a gross underestimation/miscalculation on my part (which will not be repeated). All limited releases going forward will be 1,000 jars; once the stock is gone, it's gone, but 1,000 is a large enough number that pretty much everyone who wants one will have the chance to get one.

I would recommend the following as compliments to the vanilla:

Guerlain Jicky
Guerlain Habit Rouge
Diptyque Eau Duelle
Le Labo Patchouli 24 (though some people don't care for the smokiness)

Will - Do you set a limit to the number people can order of Limited Editions?

I believe it was 3 soaps and 3 aftershaves.

Thanks, good to hear.

Will - Do you set a limit to the number people can order of Limited Editions?

I believe it was 3 soaps and 3 aftershaves.

Thanks, good to hear.

We didn't for awhile (largely because no method existed to do so) but yes, we now impose a limit of 3 units each per customer.

This just occurred to me, and knowing very little about fragrances I'm rather curious, has Will ever made an Oriental?  He's done Fougères and now a Chypre (soon to be two), but I can't think of any Orientals.

If Rhapsody was inspired by PdN New York, that would count as an oriental potentially, though I don't remember a vanilla/amber base being noticeable in Rhapsody. I could be wrong about that for sure. Speaking of, a soap inspired by Habit Rouge would not be a terrible thing at all.

one of the better ideas i've heard in some time. wouldn't you agree, Barrister_N_Mann? ;D

This just occurred to me, and knowing very little about fragrances I'm rather curious, has Will ever made an Oriental?  He's done Fougères and now a Chypre (soon to be two), but I can't think of any Orientals.

If Rhapsody was inspired by PdN New York, that would count as an oriental potentially, though I don't remember a vanilla/amber base being noticeable in Rhapsody. I could be wrong about that for sure. Speaking of, a soap inspired by Habit Rouge would not be a terrible thing at all.

one of the better ideas i've heard in some time. wouldn't you agree, Barrister_N_Mann? ;D

I do, though I'm not going to be the one to do it.

If Rhapsody was inspired by PdN New York, that would count as an oriental potentially, though I don't remember a vanilla/amber base being noticeable in Rhapsody. I could be wrong about that for sure. Speaking of, a soap inspired by Habit Rouge would not be a terrible thing at all.

one of the better ideas i've heard in some time. wouldn't you agree, Barrister_N_Mann? ;D

I do, though I'm not going to be the one to do it.

LOLOL. i wore the edt from the early 90s and it was glorious, glorious, glooooorious!

Hi Will, after sleeping on it I thought that I would delete that post I made re your guest columnist but you were not asleep and saw it so now I'm repenting at leisure. I must admit I was pissed. I agree with you that there is room for a diversity of opinions in the wet shaving community and fundamentally I agreed with Iago's position with one proviso. I read his position basically as "if you're going to review a product, be an expert" and it should be "if you're going to hold yourself out as an expert, be an expert". There's a difference. An expert should be an authority on the subject and be well versed in all aspects of the field. They should have the required vocabulary and an understanding of the science behind it all. They should know the historical context and the direction the field is heading and they should be able to communicate with lay people on a level that is relatively straightforward and comprehensible. There's nothing worse than reading some academic's discourse on a subject that is intended to be read and understood only by other academics. There are a few (very few) such experts out there (on the internet) who are engaged in performing technically sound objective reviews of the various products available in the wet shaving marketplace. The vast majority of individuals out there who are doing regular product reviews are amateurs, some of whom are holding themselves out as experts some are providing entertainment but I believe most are sincerely trying to provide an honest layman's opinion to help other members of the community choose among a sea of products. Clearly some are just flogging a product for some form of compensation. The point is, that its ok, there's room for all of those people in the wet shaving community and over time the community will separate the wheat from the chaff. I think the amateur product reviewers, whether doing formal, regular blogs or just interacting on an ad hoc basis on a forum like DFS perform a valuable service to the community by providing subjective real life accounts that other people, whether beginners or veterans can read, discuss, experiment and share their own experiences without being excoriated for using the wrong words.

Mark

Well said Mark. There is room for everyone's views and opinions on products, gear, etc. whether you're a so-called "expert" or not.

Hi Will, after sleeping on it I thought that I would delete that post I made re your guest columnist but you were not asleep and saw it so now I'm repenting at leisure.  I must admit I was pissed.  I agree with you that there is room for a diversity of opinions in the wet shaving community and fundamentally I agreed with Iago's position with one proviso. I read his position basically as "if you're going to review a product, be an expert" and it should be "if you're going to hold yourself out as an expert, be an expert".  There's a difference.  An expert should be an authority on the subject and be well versed in all aspects of the field.  They should have the required vocabulary and an understanding of the science behind it all.  They should know the historical context and the direction the field is heading and they should be able to communicate with lay people on a level that is relatively straightforward and comprehensible.  There's nothing worse than reading some academic's discourse on a subject that is intended to be read and understood only by other academics.  There are a few (very few) such experts out there (on the internet) who are engaged in performing technically sound objective reviews of the various products available in the wet shaving marketplace.  The vast majority of individuals out there who are doing regular product reviews are amateurs, some of whom are holding themselves out as experts some are providing entertainment but I believe most are sincerely trying to provide an honest layman's opinion to help other members of the community choose among a sea of products.  Clearly some are just flogging a product for some form of compensation.  The point is, that its ok, there's room for all of those people in the wet shaving community and over time the community will separate the wheat from the chaff.  I think the amateur product reviewers, whether doing formal, regular blogs or just interacting on an ad hoc basis on a forum like DFS perform a valuable service to the community by providing subjective real life accounts that other people, whether beginners or veterans can read, discuss, experiment and share their own experiences without being excoriated for using the wrong words.  

Mark

I think you have a point there, Mark, but that's not quite what I got from the article. My understanding was more "try harder," and I think that's a salient point. Iago's primary gripe (he and I speak fairly regularly) is that people simply don't bother to try to describe scents because they don't want to put that much effort or thought into it. We always see "I'm not good at describing scents, so I'll just say that it smells good." While a nice little note, it means basically nothing to anyone reading the review, and Iago's point on the subject is that people should at least bother to put a little bit of time and effort into figuring out how to describe/review a scent in a helpful fashion rather than just kind of punting the question and going "Welp, I like it."

I'm often criticized for my lengthy (some would say "masturbatory" or "overly complicated") scent descriptions, but I take that approach because I'm trying to convey as much of the scent through words as possible. I may not always be successful, but I try to cover everything, and I try to include some historical context as well to indicate WHY I did something in a specific way and why I think it was so neat to have done it in such a fashion. I don't think Iago is really asking for something like what I do (though I know he likes my style quite a bit), but rather something that more refers to the user's experience (i.e. "I smell a lot of citrus, but there's a little bit of something in there I don't like. Maybe it's patchouli?").