#141
(06-20-2017, 02:52 AM)bambrit Wrote:
(06-12-2017, 07:41 AM)Tbone Wrote: The debate here is starting to go down yet another rabbit hole.  It's the big picture that counts, not the minutiae.
Maybe because forums infinitely work better when they are a discussion that initiates Dialog with shared understanding, open-mindedness and not a "DEBATE" that is oppositional: two opposing sides trying to prove each other wrong!

As for the subject at hand, Artisan and whatever that defines as, have to utilize creative sale methods and product to get their message out and drive sales. Price will never be a main selling feature when anyone can pick up a $2 can of shaving cream from Walmart/Asda or a $1 stick of Arko online.

I disagree price is one of the main selling point for a lot of people. I think most people are out to get the best quality they can for the lowest price they can. As long as we have money based society this will walkways be true

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#142

Connaught Shaving
Suffolk, England
(06-14-2017, 09:02 PM)gnocchi Wrote:
(06-14-2017, 07:16 PM)wetshavingproducts Wrote: Meanwhile private equity is coming in and dumping cheap ass wet shaving shit all over amazon & the like. Bought out West Coast. etc etc.

West Coast Shaving was bought out by a private equity firm? Please elaborate.

Tribe Growth Group LLC, based in Brooklyn, NY.


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Paul
#143

Master Saponifier
Arizona
(06-20-2017, 02:41 AM)BPman Wrote:
(06-19-2017, 07:41 PM)wetshavingproducts Wrote: Freighter. As in ocean freighter.


I understand that, however freighters as well as trucks & trains all use petroleum for propulsion.

This is far more complicated than it appears initially. A perfect case study is Edgewell (Personna) who owns a razor blade factory in Israel, yet ship the manufactured blade to Mexico for packaging. Why? Because the products "touch" a NAFTA country (Mexico) Edgewell gets tax credits. Enough so to offset double shipping.

Well, other than expensive liquor or basically any water based product that costs more than bottled water per gallon, what exactly do you think is feasible to import from overseas? Forget about the dangers to health from cheap Chinese food products, just look at it from a cost perspective.

Water is dirt cheap in the US. Tap water, not bottled water. It'll never make sense to ship a mostly liquid product from overseas. Bottling is 99% machine based, so labor doesn't really factor in.

Actually, they aren't paying double shipping. It has to get to North America somehow. Makes perfect sense to package it in Mexico where the labor costs are lower and distribution channels are good. It's also not water.

All I'm saying is that shipping water does not make economic sense and will never make economic sense until it gets as expensive as petroleum.
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#145
(06-20-2017, 09:20 PM)wetshavingproducts Wrote: ...All I'm saying is that shipping water does not make economic sense and will never make economic sense until it gets as expensive as petroleum.



But tomorrow...


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Secretary Ramsey put his foot into it yesterday . . . in the course of his remarks he said that California “needs water and better society.”  “So does h-ll,” yelled someone in the crowd.  
#146
(06-21-2017, 01:30 AM)BPman Wrote:
(06-20-2017, 09:20 PM)wetshavingproducts Wrote: ...All I'm saying is that shipping water does not make economic sense and will never make economic sense until it gets as expensive as petroleum.



But tomorrow...


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...........and nobody is shipping anything at that point. Hopefully you live above the 45th parallel.

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#147
(06-20-2017, 09:20 PM)wetshavingproducts Wrote: All I'm saying is that shipping water does not make economic sense and will never make economic sense until it gets as expensive as petroleum.
How about if it is artisan water?
#148

Posting Freak
(06-21-2017, 07:26 AM)Tbone Wrote:
(06-20-2017, 09:20 PM)wetshavingproducts Wrote: All I'm saying is that shipping water does not make economic sense and will never make economic sense until it gets as expensive as petroleum.
How about if it is artisan water?

Does water from artesian wells count? Big Grin

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#149

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I prefer the water from the ice-cold artesian spring wells found in Latrobe, PA. Big Grin

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#150
(06-21-2017, 02:39 PM)Marko Wrote: Does water from artesian wells count? Big Grin
Only if is bottled in hand blown glass bottles with organic cork stoppers. Big Grin

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