#71

Posting Freak
I hear you Tbone but really, thats what these forums are about aren't they? Talking about stuff that may interest us and going down countless rabbit holes? I understand that the primary purpose for creating forums is to market products but it doesn't have to be solely about that, we can discuss all sorts of other shaving related things as well and even non-shaving topics in the lounge. I like that we can engage directly with artisans about their products both current and planned but many of those people are wet shaving enthusiasts as well and will engage in discussions on various subjects. At the end of the day if a thread doesn't interest me I don't read it. Unless of course it has the makings of an impending dust-up. Those are always fun Big Grin

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#72
(06-11-2017, 03:39 AM)Marko Wrote: I hear you Tbone but really, thats what these forums are about aren't they? Talking about stuff that may interest us and going down countless rabbit holes? I understand that the primary purpose for creating forums is to market products but it doesn't have to be solely about that, we can discuss all sorts of other shaving related things as well and even non-shaving topics in the lounge. I like that we can engage directly with artisans about their products both current and planned but many of those people are wet shaving enthusiasts as well and will engage in discussions on various subjects. At the end of the day if a thread doesn't interest me I don't read it. Unless of course it has the makings of an impending dust-up. Those are always fun Big Grin
A couple of the other forums might be mere ad agencies masquerading as wetshaving forums, but IMHO Damn Fine Shave much more than a place to hawk wares. First and foremost, it is a place to learn how to properly shave and the various tools and options available to do so. There is also a strong current of camaraderie that goes along with that. In contrast to other wetshaving forums, Damn Fine Shave is also genuinely welcoming to vendors of all sorts. Other places tolerate their presence, provided they pay often extortionate membership fees, but they generally are not allowed to have full, unfettered and transparent interaction with the membership as a whole. Such interaction does much to improve this place, both for the vendors and the rest of the members. But that was not at all what I was talking about regarding the growing obsession with irrelevant details.

I see more and more whiny threads about how someone could not get a product they wanted at the price they wanted. Welcome to the real world. People then over-analyze the daylights out of the situation, often with wailing and a river of crocodile tears. I was simply pointing out that going down such rabbit holes is often meaningless, and ignores the larger reality and benefits of traditional wetshaving. Its not at all that people should be forbidden from making such posts, but they shouldn't be surprised if some folks call bs on it.

And the dust ups... yeah, sometimes those are pretty funny, albeit in a Pee Wee Herman kind of way.

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#73

Member
Woodstock, VT
The OneBlade.

Constant comments on the price tag where the poster has neither bought the razor nor shaved with it but can't have the simple discipline to restrain themselves.

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#74
(06-12-2017, 12:13 AM)vtmax Wrote: The OneBlade.

Constant comments on the price tag where the poster has neither bought the razor nor shaved with it but can't have the simple discipline to restrain themselves.

Have too Tongue

Haven't tried a timeless or charcoal though.

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#75

Administrator
Philadelphia, PA
(06-11-2017, 03:39 AM)Marko Wrote: I hear you Tbone but really, thats what these forums are about aren't they?  Talking about stuff that may interest us and going down countless rabbit holes?  I understand that the primary purpose for creating forums is to market products but it doesn't have to be solely about that, we can discuss all sorts of other shaving related things as well and even non-shaving topics in the lounge.  I like that we can engage directly with artisans about their products both current and planned but many of those people are wet shaving enthusiasts as well and will engage in discussions on various subjects.  At the end of the day if a thread doesn't interest me I don't read it.  Unless of course it has the makings of an impending dust-up.  Those are always fun Big Grin

I disagree with your point on the primary purpose for creating a forum. on most forums out there outside of the shaving world, a forum is for discussing hobbies, crafts, vehicles, etc. - not for really marketing a product unless a creator of said product has a forum on their site.

sad to say that I think a few shaving forums out there have flipped this dynamic where discussion is most definitely stifled and geared towards certain products. this is one of the main reasons I brought DFS back to life again: I want people to be able to freely talk about all aspects of wet shaving with minimal rules (sane rules IMHO) and not have the fear or being shunned or banned for having a different perspective on things.

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#76
(06-12-2017, 12:13 AM)vtmax Wrote: The OneBlade.

Constant comments on the price tag where the poster has neither bought the razor nor shaved with it but can't have the simple discipline to restrain themselves.
The best a OneBlade, or any razor, is going to be able to do is give absolutely baby bottom smooth, irritation-free shaves. It doesn't get any better than BBS. If someone is already getting such shaves or nearly so from a much less expensive product, the OneBlade will seem overpriced.

(06-12-2017, 12:28 AM)bambrit Wrote: Its petty jealously when someone imposes their price restraints on others. If someone has the desire and money to buy the expensive gear and came by the funds legally, all the power to them. Its not anyone's business to judge them.
But people can't impose their price restraints on others, so it is not petty jealousy. If a product is offered for sale and in stock, third-party approval is not required for its purchase. And what difference does it make whether or not the purchasers got their money legally? Criticizing a razor for price or anything else is not the same criticizing those who buy it. People whining because they want a OneBlade but cannot afford it is another matter altogether. Less than $50 will get any number of razors that can deliver a BBS shave with the right blades.

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#77

Member
Woodstock, VT
If someone is getting BBS from a different tool then why open a thread, comment on the price of the razor, with no intention of using it?

I commented on the price of an expensive razor recently...but I had actually used it.

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#78
(06-12-2017, 12:13 AM)vtmax Wrote: The OneBlade.

Constant comments on the price tag where the poster has neither bought the razor nor shaved with it but can't have the simple discipline to restrain themselves.


Well, I haven't kissed Rosie O'Donnell either but I think I can safely state that I don't want to and need no restraint.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, whether it be someone who thinks it's insane to spend big $$ on a razor or an effete snob who basks in the self adulation of a flagrant display of opulence.  Wink

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#79

Member
Woodstock, VT
Good point. No one said we had a healthy balance in this hobby! Smile

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#80

Posting Freak
(06-11-2017, 11:50 PM)bambrit Wrote:
(06-11-2017, 03:39 AM)Marko Wrote: I see more and more whiny threads about how someone could not get a product they wanted at the price they wanted.  Welcome to the real world.

Well, I haven't given up hope that one day soon, MdC will be $12 a dozen to complement my $12 case of Arko.  Big Grin

This is strange because the text you have as a quote attributed to me was not written by me. andrewjs18 what gives here? While I don't disagree with the sentiment, I never wrote it.


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