There is one other forum that is in my subjective opinion the best. It has endured one great herd "winnowing" and is better for it as the main mod. does not suffer whiners nor shills, yet permits ribald humor that doesn't fly here or on other forums. It has not turned into another "echo chamber" and the few snobs are contained to solely post self aggrandizing SOTD photos. People there are more interested in effective run of the mill wet shaving as opposed to internet "weiner measuring" via money spent.