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It struck me while reading through this thread that we are indeed living in a wonderful time - the choices are staggering. You can shave with straight razors, safety razors, all manner of cartridge razors, single edge, double edge, wolfman, Above the tie, electric (which have been around long enough to be called traditional?) and do you remember that kick starter last year that employed a laser beam to remove your whiskers? Its amazing really and I have no problem with people using whatever method they choose to shave their faces etc.
Sure the big guys are going to get involved but not because they see their cart business going away and want to be in on the ground floor but rather, because they see an opportunity for profit. They'll offer products in all sub-categories of shaving. Its like Coke placing "competing" brands on the shelf next to their flagship - its all owned by coke so what does it matter if you choose the other product the profit ends up in the same pocket. That was also Steve Jobs' approach - if your products are going to be cannibilized it may as well be cannibilized by your own products rather than by your competitors.
I think the space where the big guys will really shine is making a cheap, comfortable and efficient safety razor like some form of plastic as-d2 that they can market to the millions of men around the world who have limited resources but still want a close comfortable shave. Volume is where those companies make their money and regardless of the "explosion" of the high end TWS market, (yes we're high end) there just aren't enough of us to satisfy the Proctor & Gambles of the world.
Its a great time to be alive.
Sure the big guys are going to get involved but not because they see their cart business going away and want to be in on the ground floor but rather, because they see an opportunity for profit. They'll offer products in all sub-categories of shaving. Its like Coke placing "competing" brands on the shelf next to their flagship - its all owned by coke so what does it matter if you choose the other product the profit ends up in the same pocket. That was also Steve Jobs' approach - if your products are going to be cannibilized it may as well be cannibilized by your own products rather than by your competitors.
I think the space where the big guys will really shine is making a cheap, comfortable and efficient safety razor like some form of plastic as-d2 that they can market to the millions of men around the world who have limited resources but still want a close comfortable shave. Volume is where those companies make their money and regardless of the "explosion" of the high end TWS market, (yes we're high end) there just aren't enough of us to satisfy the Proctor & Gambles of the world.
Its a great time to be alive.
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(03-25-2016, 03:20 PM)hrfdez Wrote: English law? Lol...
I figured somebody would likely get the reference - yes, English common law. Once you've experienced the crucible of law school there are things that will never leave your mind. It was bluebell time in Kent... (intentional infliction of emotional harm)
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(03-25-2016, 06:06 AM)Len Wrote: The Art of Shaving claims "sales of safety razors have increased 1,000 percent from 2009 to 2014"
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/20/style/....html?_r=0
A 1,000% increase in safety razor demand in the last five years simply cannot be attributed to 'collectors' or 'hobbyists'.
Did you also notice that they don't tell you the actual sales numbers? 1,000% of zero is still zero. I don't know the actual number of razors sold in AOS but given their cost, I suspect the numbers are trivial. So if sales jumped from 1,000/year to 10,000/year, that still zero in the "big scheme" of things.
Also don't forget AOS (read Gillete read P&G) WANTS you to buy something. It's not exactly unbiased. They WANT you to think something is going on. Lets bring an unbiased (I hope they are unbiased) statistics in it. See http://www.statista.com/topics/1811/mens...in-the-us/
Average amount of money spent on shaving by men per year in 2014? $18.69. AOS is a tiny, tiny drop in the bucket.
How about razors? http://www.statista.com/statistics/27651...in-the-us/ 2015. AOS doesn't even register. Micro one touch does.
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(This post was last modified: 03-25-2016, 05:06 PM by Len.)
Zero percent of zero? So no safety razors were sold? LOL!!
You have documentation to show that AoS is lying and that the New York Times is covering up numbers that must be documented by law in a public company? It's a conspiracy!!!
All this is beyond the point. MicroTouch does register, and it is very old tech indeed. And all the new razors and artisans just recently releasing new products after decades of nothing? This is called economics. Supply meeting demand.
Expect more of the same.
You have documentation to show that AoS is lying and that the New York Times is covering up numbers that must be documented by law in a public company? It's a conspiracy!!!
All this is beyond the point. MicroTouch does register, and it is very old tech indeed. And all the new razors and artisans just recently releasing new products after decades of nothing? This is called economics. Supply meeting demand.
Expect more of the same.
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Obviously the zero percent of zero is hyperbole. I don't know the actual numbers but suspect they are trivial.
There is no conspiracy but if a company does not release numbers, then how can they be proud of them?
Remember, statistics are easily manipulated. 1,000% of 100 sales in 1000 sales. Thats is nothing.
There is no conspiracy but if a company does not release numbers, then how can they be proud of them?
Remember, statistics are easily manipulated. 1,000% of 100 sales in 1000 sales. Thats is nothing.
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grim , I'm not sure if you have noticed or not, but Art of Shaving is freaking everywhere. Do you think they pay the leasing space in every other mall in America by selling 100 razors?
But again, AoS isn't the point, the overall trend is! And there is no denying or obsfucating that fact.
But again, AoS isn't the point, the overall trend is! And there is no denying or obsfucating that fact.
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