Is that what you guys want?

SV is a good example. Many people like the soaps. Many say they have lots of other soaps that work better. Many will say they think it’s too expensive. Whatever the case it, no SV release has ever been a limited number where you had to get it at a certain time. So if you don’t buy it because of the price, that’s your choice and I respect that. More importantly though, they make a soap in high enough quantity, they has never been a feeding frenzy over their products because of some hype. If anything, some people will “knock” them for being a big soap company and maybe they aren’t considered artisan, but it is indeed made by a person, an artisan, and it’s on a level, maybe you could say industrial scale, and that allows for a release that isn’t going sold out and leaving people with it in a basket but unable to checkout with a successful purchase. I think that is a really good thing. Is this post long enough yet? Haha

I think SV is not an artisan soap maker. I believe their soaps are made for them by Tcheon Fung Sing (TFS) in Italy.

My opinion on the “drop” release method is that it is probably the fairest way the artisans have found to deal with production capacity that is far smaller than the demand. If you really want the product then you at least have a chance if you keep an eye out for announcements. But whatever they do, the fact remains that if only a small amount of product is made then only a small number of customers can get it.

We can complain that all these manufacturers ought to invest to increase production, or outsource production to a large manufacturer like SV does, but these are really decisions for the business owner, not us, and there are many valid reasons why the owners may not wish to do it. Perhaps they don’t want to take the financial risk and take on debt, maybe they don’t expect the demand to last long-term, or maybe they just prefer running a small business and controlling every element, and that is what they enjoy. Not everyone aspires to create a big corporation.

It is what it is. It’s fine, in my opinion.

The demand issue is certainly a consideration but the ability especially with the forums they frequent would be to offer a preorder. If you get preorders for 100 tubs make 150 for breakage and website sale.

The distributors probably have allot of say too. I can't imagine Maggards putting in a ton of effort on the website for 20 tubs. I know a few runs that were exclusive to certain distributors.

Facts are that FOMO assists the artisans. They will always hear crying but there is a strategy to it. When seasonal drops happen almost all full-time soap makers have an offering. How do you get your tub sold over the next guy for buyers that have a finite budget. Simple, say it's limited and when it's gone it's gone.

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I think SV is not an artisan soap maker. I believe their soaps are made for them by Tcheon Fung Sing (TFS) in Italy.

My opinion on the “drop” release method is that it is probably the fairest way the artisans have found to deal with production capacity that is far smaller than the demand. If you really want the product then you at least have a chance if you keep an eye out for announcements. But whatever they do, the fact remains that if only a small amount of product is made then only a small number of customers can get it.

We can complain that all these manufacturers ought to invest to increase production, or outsource production to a large manufacturer like SV does, but these are really decisions for the business owner, not us, and there are many valid reasons why the owners may not wish to do it. Perhaps they don’t want to take the financial risk and take on debt, maybe they don’t expect the demand to last long-term, or maybe they just prefer running a small business and controlling every element, and that is what they enjoy. Not everyone aspires to create a big corporation.

It is what it is. It’s fine, in my opinion.

The SV soaps are made formulating in house at their factory in Brebbia, Northern Italy and from my understanding, a majority of the credit in formulating and the actual manufacturing is lead by Alessandro Adreani who worked previously developing different skin and shave products. SV shave soaps were actually born in the Italian forum called Il Rasoio with the help of their members on the board. Let me know if you want the link to the thread. I will add it in a separate thread outside of this discussion. I assure you they are not private label soaps made by TFS. I hope that may clarify if there was any confusion or misunderstanding.

Supply and Demand

A hand made brush is still plastic and rodent hair.  What makes it interesting is the fun shape and handsome colours.  A brush is a brush is a brush.  If chasing the dragon makes you happy, I’m happy for you.  Happy people are generally more fun to be around so there’s that.  I love to support the hard work of the Artisans, without them this whole thing is shite.  It’s because of them and the Vendors we gather and banter…. Is it not?

Expensive gear is an entirely different conversation than what Dominic is asking

I don’t have the time to wait in line for something blind.  You might think the scent is exclusive and the artisans involved are top tier.  More often than not, I think the scents smell like dirt, performance is off and the scent is TOO lite for what I WANT.  If your product makes the cut, it’s featured in my SOTD

Simply put, no, I don’t wait in line for soap and splash.  There are sooooo many top tier products readily available