#21
(04-10-2016, 05:54 PM)PannaCrema Wrote: Thank you all for this warm welcome Smile

Regarding the refills, I will make them for sure, and they will be ready in... uhm, check out this countdown to know:
http://www.tickcounter.com/countdown/324...000FF0000/

Big Grin


So no refills in this lightyear then Angel

How about making some available to us here at this particular forum - you could just put them up for us here at DFS Cool

I will gladly buy refills for €20 each - but I'm not running out in this decade, but I'll still buy a couple refills.....
Cheers, Claus from Denmark
#22
Marco, sir, your website says:

http://www.pannacrema.com/en/ Free shipping for order over 150 Euros ... But then here it says

http://www.pannacrema.com/en/content/6-shipping Free shipping for orders over 100 Euros.

Which is it? 150 or 100 Euros?

And when might Nuavia Blu be back in stock?

Thank you
#23
Welcome to DFS.
#24
Benvenuto! Di dov'e sei?
#25

Member
Toronto, Ont. Canada
(This post was last modified: 04-14-2016, 09:37 AM by Mickey Oberman.)
Ciao, Marco,

Would you please explain your "dry-lathering" method.

I am curious and always enjoy a new shaving experience.

Mickey

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#26

Soap maker
Rome, Italy
(This post was last modified: 04-14-2016, 11:11 AM by PannaCrema.)
grim thank you for pointing that out, the free shipping threshold was 100 now it's 150.

Regarding the refills, I will do them sooner or later, but I don't think the refills would cost much less than the whole thing, since the cost of a artisan soap is mostly due to the making, not the ingredients or the containers. Actually in this case the refills would require more work for me, for the paper wrapping which is not needed with the containers...

@Mickey Oberman I've explained that elsewhere and it requires both expertise and will power Smile
I'm not sure if it works well for straight razors, but with safety razors is an excellent technique and I do that everyday.
I think that bowl lathering has a problem: you have some water trapped in the brush hair, some more water in the bowl to allow the lather to whip up, and presumably more water on your face. That's too much water! I believe that there's not much difference in performance between soaps when they are overhydrated, their qualities are wishy-washy, just like if you add water to a good wine. Water is a sort of quality-leveling in that respect. People often try to replicate the same fluffy foam you get from canned goo, but that's all air! You can see many pictures on the net of semi-transparent, bubbly, thin "lathers". Do we really need that slickness? I don't think so, slickness is no good for a wet shaver!

So here's the thing, try it if you want and let me know your impressions.

The brush's hair should be all well hydrated, but then try removing all the excess water from it. The soap should be dry if it's soft, just slightly wet on the surface if it's a hard soap (add water and then turn the container upside down to let it drain). Load the brush very well, the tips should be all covered with soap. The downside of this method is that it's a soap killer. Wet your face: that's the only amount of water you'll need, so use it all. You have to resist to the temptation of adding more water, it's going to be super thick, like paint, and that's good! The razor will stick to your face, and that is the good part, just try to do long passes without ever rinsing the razor. If the razor doesn't jump it will cut the hair and not irritate your skin. Test: if you can finish an entire pass without ever rinsing the razor and with all the lather still on, you've been good! Before the second pass, rinse your face again, because you will need a thinner lather if you go against the grain. For the third pass I don't rinse to avoid adding more water to the mix.

That's it. It's not a lather, it's a thick unlathered soap layer, that will quickly reduce your soap stocks to last half the expected time (which means only 500 years) Smile


stroppinglad I'm from Rome Smile do you speak Italian?

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#27
(This post was last modified: 04-14-2016, 01:50 PM by Fargo.)
Marco, do you mean that the containers cost only a few euros? I was almost sure, not only me but many other shavers as well, that the container costs much more that the soap itself. With the economy of scale, I think that what I'm saying is correct. Also, I didn't know that the paper wrapping was so much time consuming.

The fact that the free shipping threshold is now 150 and not 100 euros makes the soap even more expensive. Many shavers, including me, bought both the Nuavias in order to avoid the expensive shipping cost. Now you have to buy 3 of these, or pay the expensive shipping cost via Fed Ex courier.

I can't understand why, but you might know something we don't.
All these make it even more difficult for many of us to rebuy a Nuavia. You can't get repeat customers this way.
#28

Soap maker
Rome, Italy
I understand perfectly, shipping is an issue, but I was loosing money. Free shipping to Australia or Japan kills my revenues.

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#29
(This post was last modified: 04-14-2016, 03:29 PM by Fargo.)
Thanks for the reply. Then raise the free shipping threshold for specific continents, p.e. don't change it for European and American customers.

I understand you don't want to answer about the cost of the bowl and if it's more expensive than the soap itself, but I respect that.
#30
(04-14-2016, 03:15 PM)PannaCrema Wrote: I understand perfectly, shipping is an issue, but I was loosing money. Free shipping to Australia or Japan kills my revenues.

Would a refill wrapped in paper weight less and be cheaper to ship? Thus helping your profits when people get free shipping?
-Spencer


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