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GROOMING DEPT / KAIROS 




For the PREFACE, I don’t personally know Moe (GROOMING DEPT Owner), haven’t met him or spoken to him other than publicly in product threads and a couple quick emails in regards to shipping a sample of his new product.

You also need to know my writing is all over the place like my thought process so you might want to read slowly.  I write the way I speak, I can’t just say, yeah, it’s a good product purchase it, lol. 
 
TO THE REVIEW….
 
About a couple months ago I was BUZZING with excitement over a new soap and splash release, NOT an ordinary release, a VERY SPECIAL RELEASE, a release just in time for the holiday spending frenzy.  ALL the super cool kids and nouveau riche were in deep discussion at EVERY shaving hang out on the internet.  Chatter of a new base and scent that will RAISE what has not risen in the Valley of Kings.  I aligned the stars for myself on this one; I was NOT going to miss this drop, the greatest SHAVING SOAP DROP of 2019!  
 
LOL, yep, they got me, I even waited downstairs in the lobby of my building checking the tracking every day, 4x a day and probably 4x per hour the day it was out for delivery!  Wasted no time, got my best soap killer (boar) brush, selected a razor, blade, ready to jump in the shower and RITUAL SHAVE on my day off of work! The selection of wares of course happened days prior to the “special” shaving soap arrival!  
 
Whipped up a real nice lather, I mean gorgeous, but wow, it seemed to disintegrate kinda fast and the thick layer I thought was going to provide that protective layer, you know, this new “miracle base,” it was NOT sticking to my face very well.  Know what?  I screwed it up; I think I used too much water?  No wait, perhaps too little water because, hmmmmm, because what?  Ok, let me start over.  Actually, let me grab a badger brush.  This very special release soap?  Yeah, it sucks; the only thing that was special was the price. And the smell, I didn’t even think about it because I was so preoccupied making excuses for NOT whipping up a proper lather.  The scent? HA. Grab a can of Endust or Pledge and there you have its scent.  In fact, spray those products on your face and shave, save yourself $60.  What product you ask, I can’t, I would have to live on Shaving Exile Island.  I don’t even know if I could approach the maker, my blatant honesty gets me into trouble, and my delivery; subtle as a train wreck.  HAS THIS DEBACLE HAPPENED TO ANY OF YOU?
 
Thank God my almost gone Grooming Department ANGEL was sitting in my shower from a shave 3 days prior.  Opened that up, whipped up a stellar lather, and went through with a beautifully scraped face, free of any hair and the stink of Endust. The scent of ANGEL is one of the best shaving soap fragrances ever to come to market.  Thank you GD for ANGEL (and Patchouli, Luxor, Ambrosia, Lime, Vetiver Nobile)!
 
Do any of you know why Moe doesn’t have 5000 splashes for use post shave?  It’s because AFTER you scrape your face FREE of ALL hair, it’s recommended, no, it’s a must….you take that beautiful textured leftover lather and coat your entire shaved face and neck. The secret sauces in GROOMING DEPT shaving soaps are cosmetic grade materials.  No seriously, you slather the leftover lather on your face and you leave that sit on your face/neck for a good 5 minutes.  Splash your hot or cold water rinse and go about your routine.  I only use toner/witch hazel 2x per week and then Kiehl’s Super Multi-Corrective Cream. 
 
……AND YET ON TO THE REVIEW FOR KAIROS
 
This review isn’t about either of the soaps mentioned above.  This review is about a NEW Grooming Dept Base/Soap coming soon! The name of the product is KAIROS.  Is the base called Kairos or is the finished product called Kairos?  Good question, it’s my opinion Kairos will make its debut as is and Moe will hopefully use the Kairos base with other essential oils for different fragrance releases. I was VERY fortunate to have been selected to try something new that has not been released. But why all the drama above about a soap/splash I can’t name?  Because that wonderful special release with all the hoopla should have been for the 2020 Release of GD KAIROS!  This is one of the most special croaps I’ve ever used, and I’ve got a few soaps and creams in my bathroom (sorry, I don’t like the word DEN).  
 
With a couple simple directions from Moe; “don’t use a PRE shave product, don’t use a POST shave product, Put it in its own vessel, and don’t be afraid to splash some water in, it will be a little thirsty.”   I have a problem following directions but when it comes to shaving I follow the rules.  
 
3 weeks ago, I received the KAIROS sample in the mail.  No fireworks, no crazy waiting with the doorman in the lobby, just a nice bubble wrapped sample tin.
 
First impression upon opening the tin, “The Scent.”  For “ME” KAIROS is an unscented VERY VERY faint Jasmine, Lily of the Valley, Honeysuckle herbaceous scent.  AND I DO MEAN faint.  At first I was like oh wow, unscented, like CLARUS.  On a scale of 1-10, with 10 being the strongest scent possible, this is a 1.  You unscented people are going to LOVE this product.  For the longest time I was SCENT DRIVEN, still am, BUT this Grooming Dept product is special, it’s very different, it’s not like other products Moe has put out.
 
I can’t get into the technical aspect of KAIROS as I don’t know cosmetics chemistry.  After using it 5x in the last 3 weeks I can tell you my face is very hydrated and I’ve been in some very harsh climate.  Direct Sun, reflective sun off snow on ski slopes, sweat, sauna/steam and WIND.  Face feels fantastic.  I read somewhere that shaving soap “is not a work of art.”  Although true, some of us care about the Aging Process more so than others.  I have to be in front of important people from time to time (I report directly to a British Lord) so being fresh and my best self is attributed to good grooming practices and products.  You know, The Ritual of MAN.  
 
I’m a very wasteful person.  I definitely overload my brushes with soap.  KAIROS is best suited for face lathering, however to be fair, I’ve been out of town for 2 weeks and face lathering is all I could really do.  KAIROS was the only product I had with me and looking back, it was the only product I needed.  No pre or post product needed other than my face lotion and some SPF. After brush loading, I usually face lather in circles; KAIROS begins a little thin but once the water from my shower hit it, WOW, the lather would not stop forming; and it’s a thick protective lather, simple to work with.  The first pass of any shave is THE most important, is it not? The old timers are reading this and are going to give it to me I’m sure.  FOR ME, first pass and detail are most important.  Face Lathering KAIROS was a huge hit for me.  Brushes (boar, badger, synth) loaded like a dream and would not stop consistently producing the same gorgeous lather.  
 
This lather is VERY long lasting, coated my face after each shave for 5-10 minutes whilst cleaning up my razors and brush. This is a Grooming Dept soap, you use the lather like a mask after your shave and you will get ZERO irritation and impeccable hydration.  Get your money’s worth out of the product here Gents.  
 
In terms of slickness, INCREDIBLE.  I critique the SLICKNESS of EVERY soap/cream off 1 thing: “Phantom Lather.”  Can you make a second pass with your razor after your initial pass?  With KAIROS absolutely.  I’m a 1-2 pass and detail shaver.  A few of my razors require a slow skilled hand, like a level 3 CG, a straight or an iKon Shavecraft Tech.  One does NOT speed shave with those.  KAIROS is in the Top 5 of my slickest shaving soaps/creams, it’s a TOP TIER performer.  I got the same Baby Smooth Face (BSF) after every shave, zero hot spots, well hydrated skin and it did NOT matter if I used a mild or aggressive instrument.
 
Scent….I’ve got to touch on this once more.  KAIROS has such a faint floral scent, it’s unscented. No matter what, I’m purchasing Kairos.  It will be the Shaving Soap to crush in 2020.  DRAGONSBEARD pummeled everything I used in 2019, it was my breakout soap of 2019 and is used minimally 1 out of every 5 shaves respectfully.  Some 2019 soaps were amazing on scent, short on performance, lacking in hydration, whatever.  KAIROS is going to be a major hit amongst the people who LOVE/REQUIRE an unscented or Folks who like simple and VERY lite scents.  Personally/Selfishly, I’m hoping Moe uses this beast of a base with some strong scents too.  I’d like to see a Kairos based LIME, Citrus, Orange Blossom or deep dark Sandalwood with Clove, Oud and Vanilla.  Either way, KAIROS is a brilliant performer and does good things for your skin.  with that said, my focus in 2020 will be products that do good things for my skin.  GROOMING DEPT Kairos has now set the bar....

BRUSHES USED WITH KAIROS:

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#3,882

A. Feitar
Portland, OR
I shaved with Kairos 3.3 this morning. Wow!!

I have a new Mozingo ZT2 which is very soft and allows great flow through. I used it on Kairos this morning. I accidentally dropped in too much water as I was loading on the sample. It turned out to be a good mistake. The soap picked up the water and exploded into a velvety smooth shiny cream. It really takes a week of shaving with a sample to come to a proper conclusion.

Kairos is great. So slick; primary and secondary just wonderful. It not only is a great shave soap it feels like a high end facial moisturizer. I did not want to rinse it off after my bbs shave.

The scent is very pleasant and mild; not too strong to mask aftershaves but strong enough to enjoy during the shave.

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#3,883

Member
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[font=Verdana]GROOMING DEPT Kairos 3.3[/font]

Addendum to my SOTD post for 20 Jan 20.....

Was asked about the Kairos 3.3 lather and it sounded like more than the description was wanted! 

Like I said, it’s like a thick yoghurt, and perfect every time.  This was lathered against my hand!

Cheers!


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#3,884
Amazing lather, man I love that brush!!! One of the best resins ever

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Dave
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#3,885

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(01-22-2020, 04:37 AM)Oasisdave Wrote: Amazing lather, man I love that brush!!! One of the best resins ever
Thank You Dave! I’ve seen that Ivory Samurai of yours, it’s a beast, I need that in ivory or ebony.
#3,886

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(01-10-2020, 01:28 AM)frenchy Wrote:
(01-09-2020, 11:21 PM)GroomingDept Wrote: What's the best Grooming Dept soap formula.
....whatever Mohammad is dreaming up for his next bases down the road...Always raising the bar...
ain’t that the truth, how does he continue to best what I already thought WAS the best? It’s got to be #BEASTMODE

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(This post was last modified: 01-24-2020, 11:29 AM by Pottertons.)
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GROOMING DEPT / KAIROS 




For the PREFACE, I don’t personally know Moe (GROOMING DEPT Owner), haven’t met him or spoken to him other than publicly in product threads and a couple quick emails in regards to shipping a sample of his new product.

You also need to know my writing is all over the place like my thought process so you might want to read slowly.  I write the way I speak, I can’t just say, yeah, it’s a good product purchase it, lol. 
 
TO THE REVIEW….
 
About a couple months ago I was BUZZING with excitement over a new soap and splash release, NOT an ordinary release, a VERY SPECIAL RELEASE, a release just in time for the holiday spending frenzy.  ALL the super cool kids and nouveau riche were in deep discussion at EVERY shaving hang out on the internet.  Chatter of a new base and scent that will RAISE what has not risen in the Valley of Kings.  I aligned the stars for myself on this one; I was NOT going to miss this drop, the greatest SHAVING SOAP DROP of 2019!  
 
LOL, yep, they got me, I even waited downstairs in the lobby of my building checking the tracking every day, 4x a day and probably 4x per hour the day it was out for delivery!  Wasted no time, got my best soap killer (boar) brush, selected a razor, blade, ready to jump in the shower and RITUAL SHAVE on my day off of work! The selection of wares of course happened days prior to the “special” shaving soap arrival!  
 
Whipped up a real nice lather, I mean gorgeous, but wow, it seemed to disintegrate kinda fast and the thick layer I thought was going to provide that protective layer, you know, this new “miracle base,” it was NOT sticking to my face very well.  Know what?  I screwed it up; I think I used too much water?  No wait, perhaps too little water because, hmmmmm, because what?  Ok, let me start over.  Actually, let me grab a badger brush.  This very special release soap?  Yeah, it sucks; the only thing that was special was the price. And the smell, I didn’t even think about it because I was so preoccupied making excuses for NOT whipping up a proper lather.  The scent? HA. Grab a can of Endust or Pledge and there you have its scent.  In fact, spray those products on your face and shave, save yourself $60.  What product you ask, I can’t, I would have to live on Shaving Exile Island.  I don’t even know if I could approach the maker, my blatant honesty gets me into trouble, and my delivery; subtle as a train wreck.  HAS THIS DEBACLE HAPPENED TO ANY OF YOU?
 
Thank God my almost gone Grooming Department ANGEL was sitting in my shower from a shave 3 days prior.  Opened that up, whipped up a stellar lather, and went through with a beautifully scraped face, free of any hair and the stink of Endust. The scent of ANGEL is one of the best shaving soap fragrances ever to come to market.  Thank you GD for ANGEL (and Patchouli, Luxor, Ambrosia, Lime, Vetiver Nobile)!
 
Do any of you know why Moe doesn’t have 5000 splashes for use post shave?  It’s because AFTER you scrape your face FREE of ALL hair, it’s recommended, no, it’s a must….you take that beautiful textured leftover lather and coat your entire shaved face and neck. The secret sauces in GROOMING DEPT shaving soaps are cosmetic grade materials.  No seriously, you slather the leftover lather on your face and you leave that sit on your face/neck for a good 5 minutes.  Splash your hot or cold water rinse and go about your routine.  I only use toner/witch hazel 2x per week and then Kiehl’s Super Multi-Corrective Cream. 
 
……AND YET ON TO THE REVIEW FOR KAIROS
 
This review isn’t about either of the soaps mentioned above.  This review is about a NEW Grooming Dept Base/Soap coming soon! The name of the product is KAIROS.  Is the base called Kairos or is the finished product called Kairos?  Good question, it’s my opinion Kairos will make its debut as is and Moe will hopefully use the Kairos base with other essential oils for different fragrance releases. I was VERY fortunate to have been selected to try something new that has not been released. But why all the drama above about a soap/splash I can’t name?  Because that wonderful special release with all the hoopla should have been for the 2020 Release of GD KAIROS!  This is one of the most special croaps I’ve ever used, and I’ve got a few soaps and creams in my bathroom (sorry, I don’t like the word DEN).  
 
With a couple simple directions from Moe; “don’t use a PRE shave product, don’t use a POST shave product, Put it in its own vessel, and don’t be afraid to splash some water in, it will be a little thirsty.”   I have a problem following directions but when it comes to shaving I follow the rules.  
 
3 weeks ago, I received the KAIROS sample in the mail.  No fireworks, no crazy waiting with the doorman in the lobby, just a nice bubble wrapped sample tin.
 
First impression upon opening the tin, “The Scent.”  For “ME” KAIROS is an unscented VERY VERY faint Jasmine, Lily of the Valley, Honeysuckle herbaceous scent.  AND I DO MEAN faint.  At first I was like oh wow, unscented, like CLARUS.  On a scale of 1-10, with 10 being the strongest scent possible, this is a 1.  You unscented people are going to LOVE this product.  For the longest time I was SCENT DRIVEN, still am, BUT this Grooming Dept product is special, it’s very different, it’s not like other products Moe has put out.
 
I can’t get into the technical aspect of KAIROS as I don’t know cosmetics chemistry.  After using it 5x in the last 3 weeks I can tell you my face is very hydrated and I’ve been in some very harsh climate.  Direct Sun, reflective sun off snow on ski slopes, sweat, sauna/steam and WIND.  Face feels fantastic.  I read somewhere that shaving soap “is not a work of art.”  Although true, some of us care about the Aging Process more so than others.  I have to be in front of important people from time to time (I report directly to a British Lord) so being fresh and my best self is attributed to good grooming practices and products.  You know, The Ritual of MAN.  
 
I’m a very wasteful person.  I definitely overload my brushes with soap.  KAIROS is best suited for face lathering, however to be fair, I’ve been out of town for 2 weeks and face lathering is all I could really do.  KAIROS was the only product I had with me and looking back, it was the only product I needed.  No pre or post product needed other than my face lotion and some SPF. After brush loading, I usually face lather in circles; KAIROS begins a little thin but once the water from my shower hit it, WOW, the lather would not stop forming; and it’s a thick protective lather, simple to work with.  The first pass of any shave is THE most important, is it not? The old timers are reading this and are going to give it to me I’m sure.  FOR ME, first pass and detail are most important.  Face Lathering KAIROS was a huge hit for me.  Brushes (boar, badger, synth) loaded like a dream and would not stop consistently producing the same gorgeous lather.  
 
This lather is VERY long lasting, coated my face after each shave for 5-10 minutes whilst cleaning up my razors and brush. This is a Grooming Dept soap, you use the lather like a mask after your shave and you will get ZERO irritation and impeccable hydration.  Get your money’s worth out of the product here Gents.  
 
In terms of slickness, INCREDIBLE.  I critique the SLICKNESS of EVERY soap/cream off 1 thing: “Phantom Lather.”  Can you make a second pass with your razor after your initial pass?  With KAIROS absolutely.  I’m a 1-2 pass and detail shaver.  A few of my razors require a slow skilled hand, like a level 3 CG, a straight or an iKon Shavecraft Tech.  One does NOT speed shave with those.  KAIROS is in the Top 5 of my slickest shaving soaps/creams, it’s a TOP TIER performer.  I got the same Baby Smooth Face (BSF) after every shave, zero hot spots, well hydrated skin and it did NOT matter if I used a mild or aggressive instrument.
 
Scent….I’ve got to touch on this once more.  KAIROS has such a faint floral scent, it’s unscented. No matter what, I’m purchasing Kairos.  It will be the Shaving Soap to crush in 2020.  DRAGONSBEARD pummeled everything I used in 2019, it was my breakout soap of 2019 and is used minimally 1 out of every 5 shaves respectfully.  Some 2019 soaps were amazing on scent, short on performance, lacking in hydration, whatever.  KAIROS is going to be a major hit amongst the people who LOVE/REQUIRE an unscented or Folks who like simple and VERY lite scents.  Personally/Selfishly, I’m hoping Moe uses this beast of a base with some strong scents too.  I’d like to see a Kairos based LIME, Citrus, Orange Blossom or deep dark Sandalwood with Clove, Oud and Vanilla.  Either way, KAIROS is a brilliant performer and does good things for your skin.  with that said, my focus in 2020 will be products that do good things for my skin.  GROOMING DEPT Kairos has now set the bar....

BRUSHES USED WITH KAIROS:

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That was one hell of a review and a great read. 
And that label though....WHOA!!! Amazing!
Cheers for that one!

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#3,888
Hello,

I received with my last order a sample of the new base, Kairos and I'm pleased to report that it's as good as it gets. Firstly, it has a different consistency than the traditional GD bases, being less firm, creamy like, similar to M&M Aon base and DG Milksteak. The scent is a faint flowery one, I detect lily of the valley which to my nose is the most predominant note as well as other flowery-like notes, perhaps jasmine. Overall, very nice and not overpowering at all.

I shaved with it 3 times already using 3 different brushes( all badger ) and it loaded very well with all of them, 2 times I built the lather in a bowl, while in my last shave, I decided to simply smear some croap on my face and face lathered adding drops of water til the lather reached the right consistency. It worked just perfectly. To build the desired lather one has to add water systematically til the lather consistency reaches the right level and believe me, it swallows a lot of water. While reaching the right consistency, the lather is thick and slick having a nice sheen to it.

Performance wise, the new Kairos base is a champ, what surprised me was the slickness( primary and residual - top notch ) and post shave feel( one of the best that I've experienced lately ). First shave I didn't use any post shave product at all and my face felt fantastic even hours after the shave.

Bottom line, another remarkable product from GD, really looking forward to being able to buy the final version. It really checked all boxes for me and I cannot recommend it highly enough!
Thanks once again Mo for yet another excellent product!

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#3,889

Posting Freak
Peachtree City, GA
THAT is some premium kit there!

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#3,890
(01-25-2020, 10:28 PM)DanLaw Wrote: THAT is some premium kit there!

Thank you very much Sir, much appreciated!


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