#21

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Los Angeles
(This post was last modified: 04-28-2016, 04:24 PM by Tidepool.)
Not to be funny but how would i get a tea stain on my blade?  It also happens on Perma Sharp.  I took a photo of the Perma Sharp but not the Gillette for another blog.  Maybe it is good Los Angeles water.  However, Gillette also rusts.  My other blades do no. And it is not my ATT stainless steel razor the stain brushes off completely. I would know because rust eats away at the metal.

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#22

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Los Angeles
(This post was last modified: 04-28-2016, 06:01 PM by Tidepool.)
As a continuation I have been told that it is not the actual blade material as I believe it is also made from stainless steel but it is the coating applied to the blade after it is machined. The coating has microscopic metal particles in it.
#23

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Los Angeles
Last reply.  This is a photo of the blade I removed this morning after four shaves.  No rust.  In addition, I never get rust when I us Personna or PolSilver.  However, Gillette Silver Blue and Perma-Sharp rusts.  The second photo shows what my ATT looked like after I cleaned it.  I took the photo with the rust (above) and the second one below to reply to a thread on another blog where I guy thought his ATT stainless steel razor was rusting.  After he saw the photos he realized that it was not the razor but it was the blade.  I sent him a private message and asked what blade he was using and he said a Silver Blue.

So, no tea stains.

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#24

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Ontario, Canada
(This post was last modified: 04-29-2016, 12:17 AM by dabrock.)
Looks like a tea stain, it has nothing to do with tea it's just a term for non-damaging staining of the metal. http://www.plant-maintenance.com/article...aining.pdf It usually only occurs if you leave the blades rather than cleaning the razor after each shave. If you feel the stain does it feel rough? If it's smooth then it's probably a tea stain.
David
#25

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Ontario, Canada
I haven't noticed this in my GSB btw, I'll try them out again soon and see if I notice this on my GSB since I don't have that issue on any other SS blades.
David
#26

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Los Angeles
(This post was last modified: 04-29-2016, 12:57 AM by Tidepool.)
(04-29-2016, 12:14 AM)dabrock Wrote: Looks like a tea stain, it has nothing to do with tea it's just a term for non-damaging staining of the metal. http://www.plant-maintenance.com/article...aining.pdf  It usually only occurs if you leave the blades rather than cleaning the razor after each shave. If you feel the stain does it feel rough? If it's smooth then it's probably a tea stain.

Oh I apologize I was not familiar with that term.  I do not clean my blade after each shave however, I loosen the razor to throughly rinse it.  When I change blades I soak the top cap and the bottom plate in a mixture of distilled white vinegar and hot water.  After 15 minutes or so I use a stiff brush to clean off any tea stains and soap residue.  If you notice the inside of the top cap has almost microscopic groves from the CNC machine.  It is not polished like other stainless steel razors so there stains cling to the groves.  I do not have a problem with that because it is my assumption that in order to make the inside smooth like a mirror it's more labor which may make the cost higher.  If it were smoothed it would not add anything to the shave quality.  It was nice chatting with you and thank you for the tea definition.
#27

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Ontario, Canada
(04-29-2016, 12:55 AM)Tidepool Wrote:
(04-29-2016, 12:14 AM)dabrock Wrote: Looks like a tea stain, it has nothing to do with tea it's just a term for non-damaging staining of the metal. http://www.plant-maintenance.com/article...aining.pdf  It usually only occurs if you leave the blades rather than cleaning the razor after each shave. If you feel the stain does it feel rough? If it's smooth then it's probably a tea stain.

Oh I apologize I was not familiar with that term.  I do not clean my blade after each shave however, I loosen the razor to throughly rinse it.  When I change blades I soak the top cap and the bottom plate in a mixture of distilled white vinegar and hot water.  After 15 minutes or so I use a stiff brush to clean off any tea stains and soap residue.  If you notice the inside of the top cap has almost microscopic groves from the CNC machine.  It is not polished like other stainless steel razors so there stains cling to the groves.  I do not have a problem with that because it is my assumption that in order to make the inside smooth like a mirror it's more labor which may make the cost higher.  If it were smoothed it would not add anything to the shave quality.  It was nice chatting with you and thank you for the tea definition.

No need to apologize, I realized I forgot to explain in my initial reply it so I was just explain it but sometimes I get a little pedantic since I've spent so many years as an engineer in the military lol. The easiest way to avoid this is just clean and dry the blades after each shave but it shouldn't affect the quality of your shave, it's just annoying to clean up after. It might be due to your water supply since I don't recall having issues with my GSB but I'm going to experiment a bit.

How many shaves do you normally do per blade before replacing?
David
#28

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Los Angeles
(04-29-2016, 02:34 AM)dabrock Wrote:
(04-29-2016, 12:55 AM)Tidepool Wrote:
(04-29-2016, 12:14 AM)dabrock Wrote: Looks like a tea stain, it has nothing to do with tea it's just a term for non-damaging staining of the metal. http://www.plant-maintenance.com/article...aining.pdf  It usually only occurs if you leave the blades rather than cleaning the razor after each shave. If you feel the stain does it feel rough? If it's smooth then it's probably a tea stain.

Oh I apologize I was not familiar with that term.  I do not clean my blade after each shave however, I loosen the razor to throughly rinse it.  When I change blades I soak the top cap and the bottom plate in a mixture of distilled white vinegar and hot water.  After 15 minutes or so I use a stiff brush to clean off any tea stains and soap residue.  If you notice the inside of the top cap has almost microscopic groves from the CNC machine.  It is not polished like other stainless steel razors so there stains cling to the groves.  I do not have a problem with that because it is my assumption that in order to make the inside smooth like a mirror it's more labor which may make the cost higher.  If it were smoothed it would not add anything to the shave quality.  It was nice chatting with you and thank you for the tea definition.

No need to apologize, I realized I forgot to explain in my initial reply it so I was just explain it but sometimes I get a little pedantic since I've spent so many years as an engineer in the military lol. The easiest way to avoid this is just clean and dry the blades after each shave but it shouldn't affect the quality of your shave, it's just annoying to clean up after. It might be due to your water supply since I don't recall having issues with my GSB but I'm going to experiment a bit.

How many shaves do you normally do per blade before replacing?

Generally 4 but some times I let it stay in for 5. I do not have a problem cleaning my razor after I replace the blade. This thing that we do comes down to procedure we feel comfortable with. It is something like face altering instead of bowl lathering. We get used to something and become comfortable with it.

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#29
Unfortunately, many people wrongly believe (including many firearms owners) that stainless steel = rustproof. As this proves, that is fallacy. It is highly dependent on the surrounding environment and its climate. I always remove the blade form my razor(s) after each use as I live close to a coast that is highly humid and has salt air. If you remove the blade after each use and pat (not wipe) dry then your problem will be solved. Personally, I put the blade back into its wrapper and then write how many times it's been used as a reminder. Rarely do I use the same blade to its completion, but rotate them depending on my whim. Wink
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#30

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Los Angeles
(This post was last modified: 04-29-2016, 04:30 PM by Tidepool.)
(04-29-2016, 07:26 AM)BPman Wrote: Unfortunately, many people wrongly believe (including many firearms owners) that stainless steel = rustproof. As this proves, that is fallacy. It is highly dependent on the surrounding environment and its climate. I always remove the blade form my razor(s) after each use as I live close to a coast that is highly humid and has salt air. If you remove the blade after each use and pat (not wipe) dry then your problem will be solved. Personally, I put the blade back into its wrapper and then write how many times it's been used as a reminder. Rarely do I use the same blade to its completion, but rotate them depending on my whim.  Wink

I am not a metallurgist so I am no expert.  Let me say this.  I own 3 Harley-Davidson motorcycles.  Two of which are highly customized.  One of them has been in Easy Rider magazine and several calendars.  I built them myself there is an enormous amount of chrome, polished billet aluminum and stainless steel on them.  In addition, three of my handguns are stainless steel.  My wife and I owned a house in Malibu, California for 15 years and you can’t get closer to the ocean than that.  Never have I seen or experienced rust on stainless steel.  In addition, I rode one of my custom bikes to Sturgis, South Dakota.  I put 5,000 miles on that bike on that trip.  I rode through temperatures ranging from 125 degrees to 31 degrees and spent a couple of days in the rain.  Never did the stainless steel show any signs of rust.  I have used stainless steel handguns at ranges in the rain.  And one spent several hours in a wet leather holster, no rust.  I have relatives in South Florida who are into boating and they sometimes carry stainless rifles when shark fishing, no rust.  I have had my ATT razor for over two years, use it every day and you can see the rust from the blade in one of my photos on the top cap.  However the stainless steel never rusted.

This is a dictionary definition of rust; “reddish-or yellowish-brown flaky coating of iron oxide that is formed on iron or steel by oxidation, especially in the presence of moisture.
• a state of deterioration or disrepair resulting from neglect or lack of use".  Rust deteriorates the metal causing pitting and loss of the actual metal.  It has not happened to my bikes, handguns or razor made with stainless steel.


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