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(05-04-2021, 09:52 PM)Dragonsbeard Wrote: UPDATE: 

So based on some feedback I’ve gotten or read about I’ve been toying with an idea so I put that to work and I made another shave soap base. It’s got some of the skin care goodies that are found in my normal base but there are folks out there that like a hard soap or should I say a lot harder than mine has been as they want to load from the jar. So I’m sending this base out to a couple of trusted testers for their unbiased feedback on this new base. An I have options to adjust it should it need to be. I used it this morning and it’s very easy to load. Takes a bit of water which I gradually added. 

( Oh and on a side note my regular base is thirsty and if you ain’t adding water to it then your not achieving the full potential of the soap in regards to slickness. )  

Anyway back to the new base. So I used it this morning and what’s kind of cool is it’s still rinses clean which is a must for me but the post shave is different than the regular base as it gradually builds with time an I’ve got to see where it’s at in another 12 hrs but it’s pretty noticeable. I may tweak it a bit after some feedback and more testing but my plan is to make some soaps with this new base and some with the existing base as I think there are guys out there that would cut my head off if I changed the current base I have or should I say discontinued my current base. I’m also working on a Vegan Creme and a very special one off base that won’t come in different scents that’s specifically developed for people with ultra sensitive skin. 

So my plan is to offer different bases to suit the needs of most anyone. 

NOTE: Ive always wanted to state something that’s been on my mind for a while. As some of you know I’ve been developing skin and hair care products for over 27 years now and doing educational classes when dealing with hair products and the professionals that use them.  I’ve asked this question many times. What’s the main objective of a Shampoo? 
Correct answer is... to cleanse your hair and scalp!  Can a shampoo condition your hair? Yes it can BUT it can only condition your hair to a certain extent but nowhere near what a actual hair conditioner or hair treatment can do to improve your hair.. that’s a scientific fact! 

Well I feel very similar to that with shaving products. The shave soap has a purpose and it’s main purpose is to provide protection and slickness when using a sharp blade to remove hair from your face or any other hair whether on your head or body. Any post shave skin benefits you get from the shave soap is a bonus and I know some soaps do a better job of that than others but a soap cannot provide or deliver the level of skin beneficial ACTIVE ingredients that post shave products can. It’s also not my intention to produce a shave soap whether hard or a soft creme that leaves a coated residue feeling on your skin or that leaves your skin feeling oily in a matter of a hour or two after using it. So over super fattening a soap is not in my cup of tea as a  soap maker. 

Also I’ll be doing a in depth post on the EOS Complex in my merchant section in the next day or two as I need to clear some things up in regards to it as I’ve read some comments that are so off base their almost comical at best. 


Anyway a quick photo of the first tester of the harder shave soap.  This one has the Succes Pineapple Noir scent in it. 

Great shaves all! [Image: zhmAShD.jpg]

Having no expertise in soap or cosmetic biology and chemistry, many posts go right over my head - especially vendor posts. However, your post makes good, clear sense, and it's a real breath of fresh air.

Thanks. I'm looking forward with the others, eagerly, to see your game plan unfold.

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(05-04-2021, 10:20 PM)frenchy Wrote: I’d love a killer ETHOS quality shave cream from you…especially for travel and days I need a fast shave. BUT…one mandatory for me is that it must be available in a 3oz or even smaller size option to meet TSA carry-on regulations....

What about my travel size jars as a option for your travels? 

 I did find a really nice 3 oz jar that would be perfect for a cream. It’s taller than my current jar but creams generally come in higher narrower jars like AOS for example.
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(05-04-2021, 11:55 PM)Dragonsbeard Wrote:
(05-04-2021, 10:20 PM)frenchy Wrote: I’d love a killer ETHOS quality shave cream from you…especially for travel and days I need a fast shave. BUT…one mandatory for me is that it must be available in a 3oz or even smaller size option to meet TSA carry-on regulations....

What about my travel size jars as a option for your travels? 

 I did find a really nice 3 oz jar that would be perfect for a cream. It’s taller than my current jar but creams generally come in higher narrower jars like AOS for example.

Honestly Frank…for me your admittedly high quality jars are heavy for travel…even the 1oz. What I want for travel is light….actually while some may have aesthetic issues with them….I find tubes are best for travel size shaving creams…like the Truefit & Hill 2.6 oz sizes…They’re tasteful…nicely packaged in an atttactive box, well-done graphically and imo does not detract from their quality imagery.

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(05-05-2021, 12:51 AM)frenchy Wrote:
(05-04-2021, 11:55 PM)Dragonsbeard Wrote:
(05-04-2021, 10:20 PM)frenchy Wrote: I’d love a killer ETHOS quality shave cream from you…especially for travel and days I need a fast shave. BUT…one mandatory for me is that it must be available in a 3oz or even smaller size option to meet TSA carry-on regulations....

What about my travel size jars as a option for your travels? 

 I did find a really nice 3 oz jar that would be perfect for a cream. It’s taller than my current jar but creams generally come in higher narrower jars like AOS for example.

Honestly Frank…for me your admittedly high quality jars are heavy for travel…even the 1oz. What I want for travel is light….actually while some may have aesthetic issues with them….I find tubes are best for travel size shaving creams…like the Truefit & Hill 2.6 oz sizes…They’re tasteful…nicely packaged in an atttactive box, well-done graphically and imo does not detract from their quality imagery.

I get it but one big issue. Tube filling facilities next to Aerosol Spray cans are the darlings of the cosmetic industry and they start their minimum runs at like 10k or to 15k for each product or in the case of shave cream it would be for each scent. Big companies like Truefit & Hill can cover those kinds of runs. I mean in this Covid environment maybe you may find a hungry filler to do a 5k run so tubes at this stage are not an option for me. I do have some very lightweight thin plastic sample jars so if you really needed something to get you through a trip I could make one for you as it would be no big deal to fill one up and ship it to you.

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Just Here for the Shaves
Williamsburg, KY
Wednesday May 5, 2021
Razor: Schick Type "F" Injector
Blade: Schick (?)
Brush: Rubberset 400/Cashmere
Soap: Ethos Succès
AS 1: Humphrey's Alcoholado Maravilla 70
AS 2: Ethos Succès SFS
Fragrance: Ethos Succès EDP
Consecutive Daily Shaves - # 910

Day # 3 Ethos Rotation was a Success with Succès. Have a stellar day Everyone !

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(05-04-2021, 11:36 PM)HighSpeed Wrote:
(05-04-2021, 09:52 PM)Dragonsbeard Wrote: UPDATE: 

So based on some feedback I’ve gotten or read about I’ve been toying with an idea so I put that to work and I made another shave soap base. It’s got some of the skin care goodies that are found in my normal base but there are folks out there that like a hard soap or should I say a lot harder than mine has been as they want to load from the jar. So I’m sending this base out to a couple of trusted testers for their unbiased feedback on this new base. An I have options to adjust it should it need to be. I used it this morning and it’s very easy to load. Takes a bit of water which I gradually added. 

( Oh and on a side note my regular base is thirsty and if you ain’t adding water to it then your not achieving the full potential of the soap in regards to slickness. )  

Anyway back to the new base. So I used it this morning and what’s kind of cool is it’s still rinses clean which is a must for me but the post shave is different than the regular base as it gradually builds with time an I’ve got to see where it’s at in another 12 hrs but it’s pretty noticeable. I may tweak it a bit after some feedback and more testing but my plan is to make some soaps with this new base and some with the existing base as I think there are guys out there that would cut my head off if I changed the current base I have or should I say discontinued my current base. I’m also working on a Vegan Creme and a very special one off base that won’t come in different scents that’s specifically developed for people with ultra sensitive skin. 

So my plan is to offer different bases to suit the needs of most anyone. 

NOTE: Ive always wanted to state something that’s been on my mind for a while. As some of you know I’ve been developing skin and hair care products for over 27 years now and doing educational classes when dealing with hair products and the professionals that use them.  I’ve asked this question many times. What’s the main objective of a Shampoo? 
Correct answer is... to cleanse your hair and scalp!  Can a shampoo condition your hair? Yes it can BUT it can only condition your hair to a certain extent but nowhere near what a actual hair conditioner or hair treatment can do to improve your hair.. that’s a scientific fact! 

Well I feel very similar to that with shaving products. The shave soap has a purpose and it’s main purpose is to provide protection and slickness when using a sharp blade to remove hair from your face or any other hair whether on your head or body. Any post shave skin benefits you get from the shave soap is a bonus and I know some soaps do a better job of that than others but a soap cannot provide or deliver the level of skin beneficial ACTIVE ingredients that post shave products can. It’s also not my intention to produce a shave soap whether hard or a soft creme that leaves a coated residue feeling on your skin or that leaves your skin feeling oily in a matter of a hour or two after using it. So over super fattening a soap is not in my cup of tea as a  soap maker. 

Also I’ll be doing a in depth post on the EOS Complex in my merchant section in the next day or two as I need to clear some things up in regards to it as I’ve read some comments that are so off base their almost comical at best. 


Anyway a quick photo of the first tester of the harder shave soap.  This one has the Succes Pineapple Noir scent in it. 

Great shaves all! [Image: zhmAShD.jpg]

Having no expertise in soap or cosmetic biology and chemistry, many posts go right over my head - especially vendor posts. However, your post makes good, clear sense, and it's a real breath of fresh air.

Thanks. I'm looking forward with the others, eagerly, to see your game plan unfold.

Thank you so much for the encouraging words. I’m trying my friend!

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Just Here for the Shaves
Williamsburg, KY
Thursday May 6, 2021
Razor: Ender's Speed Shaver
Blade: Schick (?)
Brush: Stirling Synthetic
Soap: Ethos Greenfresh
AS 1: Humphrey's Alcoholado Maravilla 70
AS 2: Ethos Greenfresh SFS
Fragrance: Ethos Greenfresh EDP
Consecutive Daily Shaves - # 911

Day # 4 Ethos Rotation

Paul mrdoug was right I was daydreaming about the Greenfresh some as I looked forward to it but still saved the best for me for last tomorrow............
Dragonsbeard
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(05-04-2021, 09:52 PM)Dragonsbeard Wrote: UPDATE: 

So based on some feedback I’ve gotten or read about I’ve been toying with an idea so I put that to work and I made another shave soap base. It’s got some of the skin care goodies that are found in my normal base but there are folks out there that like a hard soap or should I say a lot harder than mine has been as they want to load from the jar. So I’m sending this base out to a couple of trusted testers for their unbiased feedback on this new base. An I have options to adjust it should it need to be. I used it this morning and it’s very easy to load. Takes a bit of water which I gradually added. 

( Oh and on a side note my regular base is thirsty and if you ain’t adding water to it then your not achieving the full potential of the soap in regards to slickness. )  

Anyway back to the new base. So I used it this morning and what’s kind of cool is it’s still rinses clean which is a must for me but the post shave is different than the regular base as it gradually builds with time an I’ve got to see where it’s at in another 12 hrs but it’s pretty noticeable. I may tweak it a bit after some feedback and more testing but my plan is to make some soaps with this new base and some with the existing base as I think there are guys out there that would cut my head off if I changed the current base I have or should I say discontinued my current base. I’m also working on a Vegan Creme and a very special one off base that won’t come in different scents that’s specifically developed for people with ultra sensitive skin. 

So my plan is to offer different bases to suit the needs of most anyone. 

NOTE: Ive always  wanted  to state something that’s been on my mind for a while. As some of you know I’ve been developing skin and hair care products for over 27 years now and doing educational classes when dealing with hair products and the professionals that use them.  I’ve asked this question many times. What’s the main objective of a Shampoo? 
Correct answer is... to cleanse your hair and scalp!  Can a shampoo condition your hair? Yes it can BUT it can only condition your hair to a certain extent but nowhere near what a actual hair conditioner or hair treatment can do to improve your hair.. that’s a scientific fact! 

Well I feel very similar to that with shaving products. The shave soap has a purpose and it’s main purpose is to provide protection and slickness when using a sharp blade to remove hair from your face or any other hair whether on your head or body. Any post shave skin benefits you get from the shave soap is a bonus and I know some soaps do a better job of that than others but a soap cannot provide or deliver the level of skin beneficial ACTIVE ingredients that post shave products can. It’s also not my intention to produce a shave soap whether hard or a soft creme that leaves a coated residue feeling on your skin or that leaves your skin feeling oily in a matter of a hour or two after using it. So over super fattening a soap is not in my cup of tea as a  soap maker. 

Also I’ll be doing a in depth post on the EOS Complex in my merchant section in the next day or two as I need to clear some things up in regards to it as I’ve read some comments that are so off base their almost comical at best. 


Anyway a quick photo of the first tester of the harder shave soap.  This one has the Succes Pineapple Noir scent in it. 

Great shaves all! [Image: zhmAShD.jpg]




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(This post was last modified: 05-06-2021, 09:04 PM by Smattayu.)
Had a fantastic shave with Ethos Colonia yesterday, and added some Ice Dragon to it to get a feel for how it worked/felt. Great stuff and it will certainly be a staple in the shave den this summer.

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And have some Greenfresh soap/AS on the way. I'm probably not going to stop until I have most or all of the Ethos line, it is that good.

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(05-06-2021, 11:17 AM)Dave in KY Wrote: Thursday May 6, 2021
Razor: Ender's Speed Shaver
Blade: Schick (?)
Brush: Stirling Synthetic
Soap: Ethos Greenfresh
AS 1: Humphrey's Alcoholado Maravilla 70
AS 2: Ethos Greenfresh SFS
Fragrance: Ethos Greenfresh EDP
Consecutive Daily Shaves - # 911

Day # 4 Ethos Rotation

Paul mrdoug was right I was daydreaming about the Greenfresh some as I looked forward to it but still saved the best for me for last tomorrow............
Dragonsbeard
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Nice morning shave my friend and May I ask how do you like the razor? I had one many years ago and I’m trying to remember how it shaved.

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