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Detroit
(This post was last modified: 09-01-2017, 04:45 PM by wyze0ne.)
Hey all, I just wanted to share my "new" DFS/Envy Shave brush. I originally got this with the Envy White badger knot which I enjoyed for a while. Recently I've moved more into the synthetic realm and just wasn't using the brush really at all, which was a shame because I absolutely love the handle on this thing. I ended up trading it for another DFS brush that had the Ubersoft synthetic knot. I used it a few times and found that I didn't enjoy this knot at all. It had too much backbone and after using the Tuxedo and Cashmere brushes a lot, found that the ironically named Ubersoft wasn't that soft. So I picked up a Maggard 26mm black/white synthetic to reknot it with to create a limited to one Limited Edition, lol. Here is the result.

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I used it for my shave today and while the knot is nice, it has too much backbone and didn't splay enough for me. Good thing I set it with silicone so I'm going to pop it out and put some shims under it to raise the loft before setting it permanently. Another thing I noticed is something that I think Wolverine experienced with his Maggard knot. The black dye used in the knot leeched out into my lather and turned it a grayish color. I hope after more use that this doesn't continue to happen. Here's a pic.

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- Jeff
#2

Member
Metro Detroit
I noticed that dye effect as well. It went away after two shaves.

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#3

Member
Detroit
Thanks tdmsu. I was hoping it was a temporary thing.

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- Jeff
#4
Looks good with the white rings on the handle.

How did you remove the old knot? Drill? Boiling water? Blow torch?
Shave yourself.
-Todd
#5

Member
Detroit
(09-01-2017, 08:48 PM)bakerbarber Wrote: Looks good with the white rings on the handle.

How did you remove the old knot? Drill? Boiling water? Blow torch?

Thanks! They are rubber o-rings I bought from PAA.

To remove the old knot, I started by cutting it as close to the handle as possible with heavy duty scissors and a really sharp steak knife. This was tough as the knot was super dense. I couldn't get as close to the handle as I wanted because I was going to use the drill press at work to get the rest of the fibers and glue out. So to get it flush with the top of the handle I used the belt sander at my work to "sand" the last millimeter or so of fibers that were still sticking out of the handle. Unfortunately, while I was trying to cut them with the knife, I put a couple of gouges in the top of it, so when I sanded the rest out I just went ahead and sanded the anodizing off the top of the handle. Now it's just bare aluminum. I was going to paint it black or something, but it looks kind of cool as it is. I think I'll leave it like that. To get the remaining glue/fibers out of the handle socket, I used a 1" Forstner bit on the drill press which made quick work of it. In hindsight, I could've tried the steam or boiling water method first since the handle is aluminum I wouldn't have to worry about damaging it. It seemed like there was a lot of glue in this sucker though so it might not have worked.

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- Jeff
#6
Deffinately wash a new black synthetic first.
A couple washes and it will not bleed.
#7
Hey Jeff wyze0ne both my 28 and 30 mm leeched the dye.  Even though the second knot. (The28mm) I shampooed it a couple extra times it still bleed for the first two lathes. After that I didn't notice it anymore and they have been fine since.  How deep was the knot set. I used Whipped Dog handles for both and took them at standard depth which is supposed to be 10mm. I just took a crude measurement and they were approximately 11 mm.

Brush looks sweet. Congrats.

Maggards is now selling a 24mm beige knot that looks to be a Cashmere knot now as well. Love having all these options.

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Go Blue!
#8

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Detroit
(09-01-2017, 09:46 PM)Wickedgoose Wrote: Deffinately wash a new black synthetic first.
A couple washes and it will not bleed.

I don't know. I didn't shampoo my "authentic" Tuxedo from AP Shave Co. and it never bled like that. I did shampoo this one once because I knew of the issue with Wolverine's brush. I'm not sure exactly how deep the socket is. It's deeper than 10mm though, that's for sure.
- Jeff
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