A Banning in Two Parts

As a heads up, the B&B moderators do use criticisms from other forums to ban you on their forums. I’ve seen this happen to many a folk. It’s a shame as that’s where I started, but it is what it is.

geez, its not enough to scour their own forum?  Who has the time to engage in such dumbassery?

Dumbasses of course.

As a heads up, the B&B moderators do use criticisms from other forums to ban you on their forums. I’ve seen this happen to many a folk. It’s a shame as that’s where I started, but it is what it is.

geez, its not enough to scour their own forum?  Who has the time to engage in such dumbassery?

On my previous forum, the owners warned me that Mr Toothpick was digging thru all my posts so, Yes they do it for sure ! Sadly.....

Dave, you are a serial banee...

perhaps the result of your repeated overuse of vintage razors.  Us modern guys just don't get it i.e. the use of something dated 1890 that looks like a Venus Flytrap to apply a sharp object to your face.  It looks painful and worthy of a ban.  You are just going to have to come up with a new screen name when the inevitable occurs.  May I suggest Knave in KY. Of course, then you would have to regrow a moustache and look like John Rose .

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I will say one thing. Gillette razors are not the best a man can get. lol

geez, its not enough to scour their own forum?  Who has the time to engage in such dumbassery?

On my previous forum, the owners warned me that Mr Toothpick was digging thru all my posts so, Yes they do it for sure ! Sadly.....

Dave, you are a serial banee...

perhaps the result of your repeated overuse of vintage razors.  Us modern guys just don't get it i.e. the use of something dated 1890 that looks like a Venus Flytrap to apply a sharp object to your face.  It looks painful and worthy of a ban.  You are just going to have to come up with a new screen name when the inevitable occurs.  May I suggest Knave in KY.  Of course, then you would have to regrow a moustache and look like John Rose .

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In my defense the Cadre caused the other place to ban me........ Then the Cadre's reason for banning me was and I quote "The relationship is no longer mutually beneficial" Translation is they couldn't get anything more from me.....

B&B is a fascist regime. Getting banned from there should be a mark of shaving patriotism. I left there before I was banned. They wanted to extort $ from me before I made any $ at all. I gave them the middle finger salute and left.

So much to unpack here. Most threads about B&B get locked but this one is running so I am jumping in before the door closes.

Have you seen my signature?

First off, this is the original Hallows from the first batch from B&M. Made for a "Scent off". I knew from the second I opened the tin, it was very special.

http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz61/...92f141.jpg

https://damnfineshave.com/thread-hallows?page=2

Over at B&B in the early days they were pretty happy go lucky. Then Joel realized how much traffic the site generated and decided to maximize profit in any way he could. Vendor fees, Panjo seller fees, buying those stupid badges. Advertising for products from big box sellers etc. Then the rules began to change to make sure they were a closed community to ensure traffic stayed on B&B. Posting links to outside forums (or anywhere else) stole their traffic and your posts were deleted.

I stepped away during the PANJO grift timeframe and when that went down in utter failure and brought the old BST back with new rules I thought I might try it again. After an ad went for 5 days with no issue just one person cried that the price was a little high, Jim pulled my ad and told me BST was only for "active" members and wiped my account back to day 1 status. Then I posted in the feedback section...and was banned.

I created a second account with a screenshot of Joel as my profile pic. I literally cut and paste 2 non-descript questions from 2013 and was banned for TOU agreement infractions. Still am mystery as to what those infractions were.
Here is the screengrab of Joel at a tech conference interview i found on u-tube. Does he look like a well groomed gentleman that owns the biggest shaving website on the net?



About Stirling,
First a Mod renamed all the posts (misspelling it on purpose) so Rod wouldn't get the notoriety he deserved. Then they collected all posts and responses mentioning Stirling and put them in one monster thread. 2 things happened at that time. First obviously they wanted to get their cut out of the vendors prompting all new fees. 2nd, there was another soaper with multiple accounts he used to build enthusiasm for his own line. This other soaper pulled some dick moves that cost Rod alot in the business world. And I will leave it at that as it is not entirely my story to tell. Needless to say Rod has done very well in moving his product without interaction from B&B. If there is a grift to be had or way to skim from members or vendors, B&B will do it. The user is the product.

I did some other looking and found that B&B is registered as an actual business and the owners house is VERY lavish. B&B is quite the lucrative business (ie money making) venture. Joel leaves it to his Mods to ban indiscriminately because he knows he gets the clicks and the vendor extortion pays handsomely. You have to remember that Joel started B&B because the the owner of Straight Razor Place (sp?) kicked Joel out for acting a fool over there. So in Joel's mind, anyone that is a member of another forum is not one of his "marks". Scraping a member's online activities at other sites is fair game to him.

The ONLY thing B&B has that I wish DFS had is the razor dating shave wiki. I am a vintage only user and do scrounge antique stores and non-ebay auctions for finds in the wild. If there was a way to build a razor dating shart for Gillette, Gem/Eveready, and Schick here at DFS, I would be sooo happy about that.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. (hopefully I don't look like I am blowing smoke up their shorts) DFS is quite special with Andrew, Freddy, and Marko running the show here. No matter your tiff with other members, DFS is one helluva place to be.

So as a fond farewell from B&B, here are my goodbye gifts from them.

I did some other looking and found that B&B is registered as an actual business and the owners house is VERY lavish. B&B is quite the lucrative business (ie money making) venture. Joel leaves it to his Mods to ban indiscriminately because he knows he gets the clicks and the vendor extortion pays handsomely. You have to remember that Joel started B&B because the the owner of Straight Razor Place (sp?) kicked Joel out for acting a fool over there. So in Joel's mind, anyone that is a member of another forum is not one of his "marks". Scraping a member's online activities at other sites is fair game to him.

I’m not looking to make any arguments in this thread and do agree that most banning situations at any forum are pretty lame… but just a couple quick points as a devil’s advocate to the above part of your post:
I’m not sure that it’s fair/accurate to say that Joel enjoys a lavish lifestyle because of the way B&B is run. If you’re looking up B&B’s corporate info on the California Secretary of State’s website (which is public info, I use it all the time for work), you’re seeing who is listed as the agent of service for a company, which often times is an attorney. Some attorneys will list their office address and some will list their home address, but there are lots of attorneys with nice houses. 
You can also look up other info which will sometimes include a home address of the executive/managing partner for an entity, and maybe that’s a current address and maybe that’s a house that’s owned or rented. But if this is Joel’s LinkedIn profile (https://www.linkedin.com/in/joel-ferman), I would guess that he has probably made way more money in working for places like Juniper, Microsoft, Cisco than by running B&B. 
Again, I’m not saying I support the vendor fees and bans there, just pointing out that it might be an inaccurate assumption to say that he’s living a lavish lifestyle as a result of B&B if he’s also been working in the tech field in Silicon Valley for years. 
PS I had almost forgot about the Panjo thing… that really was lame.

That profile, irrespective if his, is an indictment on the US corporate value proposition.  It apparent US is undisputed master of creating nothing of value then automating the process. Ever read the book: 'Bullshit Jobs'?

For those unfamiliar with the Panjo nonvalueadded scam: https://pando.com/2013/07/23/panjo-gets-...mmunities/

I shall endeavour to attain a standard to your satisfaction

jesseix  I tend to agree with you on all of your points.

In those filing documents you see that Nicholas is the filing agent and the CFO of B&B and Joel is the CEO. So Nicholas would be the lawyer. And I do agree Joel's full time job is NOT B&B. So this tells me that B&B is Joel's "side piece" which is how you get the "mods gone wild" that B&B is known for. Also, there is a member of B&B that has been with Joel from the beginning whose name is Nick and his avatar is Chuck Norris in a cowboy hat. I think his filing agent and CFO also works on the site with tech issues, updates, upgrades software pushes etc. I could be wrong but I am seeing about the Nick association but the coincidence is strong.