A Banning in Two Parts

Yes I totally agree with you I can't believe there are so many members there....

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I've often thought that too but I doubt they remove the banned people from the count. Probably much lower if they did.

Amateurs  I've been banned from B&B twice for supporting a forum started by some that left B&B. It happened when the new forum gave me the custom title " TSC's Number 1 Recruiter" After supporting said forum for 2 years and 30,000 posts, I learned they were behind the scenes no different than B&B. They twice accidentally gave me owner privileges and I had access to the owners lounge and their discussions of vendors and members.(YES, I have the copy and pasted proof) I left a post in their lounge telling them off, to lock the door behind themselves and be more careful running their software  Then the 3 owners message me warning all I saw was confidential and what did I want. I said nothing from them. Just leave me alone to interact with who I chose to. They chose to ban me weeks after my father died so everyone would think I left due to mourning my loss.  Real Class acts........

I also saw first-hand who the Cadre Owners really were when I created a for sale listing and mentioned I would donate 100% of the proceeds to Seattle Children's Hospital.

They promptly closed my thread down without warning. When I asked why, they informed me I would have to give them money first and be a paying Vendor since one of the items in my ad was a handle I made. 

And that was the last time I ever hung out on that forum!

Thank goodness we have DFS. In the last couple years I've come to greatly appreciate this forum, its Members/Friends and Mods.

I also like the Shave Nook, but not a lot of activity there these days.

This is a fun place, everyone here (mostly) has an interest in shaving swag such as:  Razors, blades, brushes, soaps, croaps, creams, splash and balms. I look forward to hearing and seeing all the cool new merchandise.  Mostly I like interacting with all of you

Many of you are friends or have been socially acquainted here and on other threads….for many many years.  There will always be a clash of opinion even amongst friends AND family

Those are the facts

When an active participating member here or at any other shaving forum gives you a warning of a Merchant of Chaos, it’s your responsibility to check that out.  A Merchant of Chaos has a brand; it’s Confusion and the Division of People. Without an audience there’s no energy to feed

Amidst confusion, original subject matter gets derailed and more confusion surfaces causing tensions. There’s a difference between disappointment and anger.  The Merchant cannot distinguish that and draws as many people into this confusion as possible. People will say things to each other in this confusion they may not necessarily mean or the interpretation isn’t clear. Unfortunately it will be too little too late and suspensions or possible banning of members will be forthcoming

Rob, you talking in code or drinking heavy again ? Dumb it down for your Hillbilly friend will ya ? 

With the talk of the Gin & Tonic I’d love a road soda! 

And absolutely will help you out here Sir.  There was a Flipping Thread somewhere on here the other day. I chose NOT to get banned a couple days ago because I recognised a Merchant of Chaos and gave members here fair warning.  Subject matter like flipping can get heated amongst people and that energy is how the Merchant feeds.  It’s very important to know the MoC has no interest in shaving gear and even less in the community it operates in. We are all here with a common interest…..shaving stuff

It’s very hard for many people to see the Merchant because it’s brand is confusion. The MoC operates with an audience, they pull as many in as possible which causes more confusion.  People will temporarily lose their minds and say things to each other amidst this confusion because each individual has an opinion which is neither right nor wrong, it’s individual interpretation.  The words used between each other can result in being banned here.

An example of how the MoC operates? I’m glad you asked. Lets pretend you have a gorgeous Declaration BoK Theo with a B5 which even makes it more special.  You love this brush but personal issues come up and you need to raise some capital but would like the brush back in a month or two.  You sell the brush, do a virtual handshake with the buyer and all is well right? WRONG. The buyer was a Merchant of Chaos and the moment that brush arrived is as fast as it went out to a new owner for triple cost basis.  In fact if it could, the MoC would have you ship directly to its new owner, save time and postage.  It’s important to know the MoC has no interest in shaving gear and even less in the community it operates in (I’ll only say it twice).

Can you get banned for this? No, no you cannot Dave. That’s an integrity thing Sir.  But I’m glad you asked.

I’ll address your last question; How do you shut down a MoC? There’s a few moving parts. Patience always.  Next, it lurks in the Want to Buy section where you post your wish list. When the MoC finally surfaces it’s much easier to dispel.  Don’t look at it, talk to it, don’t invite it in.  Continue having fun with and doing business with well respected members and the Merchant of Chaos fades away………

This is a fun place, everyone here (mostly) has an interest in shaving swag such as:  Razors, blades, brushes, soaps, croaps, creams, splash and balms. I look forward to hearing and seeing all the cool new merchandise.  Mostly I like interacting with all of you

Many of you are friends or have been socially acquainted here and on other threads….for many many years.  There will always be a clash of opinion even amongst friends AND family

Those are the facts

When an active participating member here or at any other shaving forum gives you a warning of a Merchant of Chaos, it’s your responsibility to check that out.  A Merchant of Chaos has a brand; it’s Confusion and the Division of People. Without an audience there’s no energy to feed

Amidst confusion, original subject matter gets derailed and more confusion surfaces causing tensions. There’s a difference between disappointment and anger.  The Merchant cannot distinguish that and draws as many people into this confusion as possible. People will say things to each other in this confusion they may not necessarily mean or the interpretation isn’t clear. Unfortunately it will be too little too late and suspensions or possible banning of members will be forthcoming

Rob, you talking in code or drinking heavy again ? Dumb it down for your Hillbilly friend will ya ? 

With the talk of the Gin & Tonic I’d love a road soda! 

And absolutely will help you out here Sir.  There was a Flipping Thread somewhere on here the other day. I chose NOT to get banned a couple days ago because I recognised a Merchant of Chaos and gave members here fair warning.  Subject matter like flipping can get heated amongst people and that energy is how the Merchant feeds.  It’s very important to know the MoC has no interest in shaving gear and even less in the community it operates in. We are all here with a common interest…..shaving stuff

It’s very hard for many people to see the Merchant because it’s brand is confusion. The MoC operates with an audience, they pull as many in as possible which causes more confusion.  People will temporarily lose their minds and say things to each other amidst this confusion because each individual has an opinion which is neither right nor wrong, it’s individual interpretation.  The words used between each other can result in being banned here.

An example of how the MoC operates? I’m glad you asked. Lets pretend you have a gorgeous Declaration BoK Theo with a B5 which even makes it more special.  You love this brush but personal issues come up and you need to raise some capital but would like the brush back in a month or two.  You sell the brush, do a virtual handshake with the buyer and all is well right? WRONG. The buyer was a Merchant of Chaos and the moment that brush arrived is as fast as it went out to a new owner for triple cost basis.  In fact if it could, the MoC would have you ship directly to its new owner, save time and postage.  It’s important to know the MoC has no interest in shaving gear and even less in the community it operates in (I’ll only say it twice).

Can you get banned for this? No, no you cannot Dave. That’s an integrity thing Sir.  But I’m glad you asked.

I’ll address your last question; How do you shut down a MoC? There’s a few moving parts. Patience always.  Next, it lurks in the Want to Buy section where you post your wish list. When the MoC finally surfaces it’s much easier to dispel.  Don’t look at it, talk to it, don’t invite it in.  Continue having fun with and doing business with well respected members and the Merchant of Chaos fades away………

Already operating with this mindset but thanks for clarifying my friend. I'm a Northerner Hillbilly and slow sometimes

Man! If a guy isn’t careful he’ll become jaded sure as shooting.  I was active on a lot of sites and although I have never been banned from any of them, DFS is my home.  I truly like the freedom here.  I even like the interaction with a very few of you.  ?.  DFS, where you can be a gentleman or a jerk.  Now that is the American dream!

Amateurs  I've been banned from B&B twice for supporting a forum started by some that left B&B. It happened when the new forum gave me the custom title " TSC's Number 1 Recruiter" After supporting said forum for 2 years and 30,000 posts, I learned they were behind the scenes no different than B&B. They twice accidentally gave me owner privileges and I had access to the owners lounge and their discussions of vendors and members.(YES, I have the copy and pasted proof) I left a post in their lounge telling them off, to lock the door behind themselves and be more careful running their software  Then the 3 owners message me warning all I saw was confidential and what did I want. I said nothing from them. Just leave me alone to interact with who I chose to. They chose to ban me weeks after my father died so everyone would think I left due to mourning my loss.  Real Class acts........

Are you still banned from the Golden Corral?

Amateurs  I've been banned from B&B twice for supporting a forum started by some that left B&B. It happened when the new forum gave me the custom title " TSC's Number 1 Recruiter" After supporting said forum for 2 years and 30,000 posts, I learned they were behind the scenes no different than B&B. They twice accidentally gave me owner privileges and I had access to the owners lounge and their discussions of vendors and members.(YES, I have the copy and pasted proof) I left a post in their lounge telling them off, to lock the door behind themselves and be more careful running their software  Then the 3 owners message me warning all I saw was confidential and what did I want. I said nothing from them. Just leave me alone to interact with who I chose to. They chose to ban me weeks after my father died so everyone would think I left due to mourning my loss.  Real Class acts........

Are you still banned from the Golden Corral?

Nope, still good there since the new manager took over. It's all you can eat heaven

This is a fun place, everyone here (mostly) has an interest in shaving swag such as:  Razors, blades, brushes, soaps, croaps, creams, splash and balms. I look forward to hearing and seeing all the cool new merchandise.  Mostly I like interacting with all of you

Many of you are friends or have been socially acquainted here and on other threads….for many many years.  There will always be a clash of opinion even amongst friends AND family

Those are the facts

When an active participating member here or at any other shaving forum gives you a warning of a Merchant of Chaos, it’s your responsibility to check that out.  A Merchant of Chaos has a brand; it’s Confusion and the Division of People. Without an audience there’s no energy to feed

Amidst confusion, original subject matter gets derailed and more confusion surfaces causing tensions. There’s a difference between disappointment and anger.  The Merchant cannot distinguish that and draws as many people into this confusion as possible. People will say things to each other in this confusion they may not necessarily mean or the interpretation isn’t clear. Unfortunately it will be too little too late and suspensions or possible banning of members will be forthcoming

Rob, you talking in code or drinking heavy again ? Dumb it down for your Hillbilly friend will ya ? 

I'm with you...I read it and I really tried to pay attention but wth Rob? Code talkin?

I’m treading lightly.  This is the part where you take that step back and say, ahhhhhhhh, ok….  I see what he did here 

I like it here, I’m not getting banned.  I took the high road, it was very hard for me to do

"Merchant of Chaos" sounds like a great name for a novel soap scent. Kind of a gunsmoke/cabbage fart/dog pile vibe.

Will or Frank should run with this!

Agents look like me and you when they’re working, but this is their true form:

I was also banned there! I don’t even understand why! I wrote many polite letters asking for an explanation, but I didn’t get any answer ((